Most glider pilots from Europa don't hold a Medical Class 2 but a medical for gliding. This is going to be an issue. To get a Medical Class 2 in the Netherlands is 400 AUD.
Grietje On 11/10/13 6:51 PM, Christopher Thorpe wrote: > > The law as it stands in Australia, and also in most other parts of the > world for that matter, is that the pilot's Medical Certificate must be > issued by the State that issued the licence under which the pilot is > flying. > > > > What is unique to Australia is that CASA does not recognise an > overseas licence for flying gliders in Australia. To fly gliders here > a person must be a member of the GFA and fly under the GFA pilot > certification process. Hence a person flying on an Australian pilot > certificate must have an Australian Medical. > > > > Now GFA has never had authority to accept a Medical Certificate issued > by other than an Australian Registered Medical Practitioner. The > reason this has not previously been an issue is that overseas pilots > were most likely self-declaring their medical status, which still > remains an option. However, now that Instructors must have a Medical > Certificate, the matter of foreign pilot medicals became an issue > because there are a number of foreign pilots coming to Australia to > instruct. > > > > So GFA approached CASA on this subject and stressed the value of the > doctor/patient relationship, and it was agreed that a certificate from > a GP with access to the patient's medical history is preferred. So we > now have an agreement in principle that foreign pilots who hold > a valid ICAO Class 2 or higher Medical Certificate (or equivalent > documentation) issued by their licencing state may fly gliders in > command while that Medical Certificate remains current. > > > > It is anticipated that CASA will shortly approve an amendment to our > Operational Regulations to reflect this. > > > > So while it is unfortunate that a handful of Australians with an > overseas medical can't use it here, those foreign pilots entering > Australia with their overseas issued licence and medical won't be > inconvenienced. > > > > *Christopher Thorpe* > > *From:*[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Matt Gage > *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 5:52 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > However, the crazy situation is that if a US pilot holds a class 2 > medical, they can fly here using that unless they gain Australian > citizenship, at which time they have to suddenly self certify or get > an Australian class 2 > > > > Or an Australian who has lived overseas for many years is unable to > use their class 2 on a brief holiday here > > > > Looks like we have badly thought through regs, or possibly the > interpretations on the web site are too simplistic. I hope it's the latter > > Matt > > > On 11 Oct 2013, at 17:25, "Christopher Thorpe" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > An Australian flying on an Australian pilot certificate who is > ineligible to self-declare their medical status must hold an > Australian Medical Certificate. This is the case even if an > Australian also holds citizenship of another country. > > > > If the person holds dual citizenship of countries other than > Australia and they are ineligible to self-declare, then they will > need to provide a Medical certificate issued by the State that > issued their Pilot's Licence. > > > > > > > > *Christopher Thorpe* > > > > *From:*[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Ron Sanders > *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 4:30 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > What about those who hold dual citizenship?? > > > > > > > > On 10 October 2013 21:53, Christopher Thorpe <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > The Q&A means exactly what it says. An AUSTRALIAN pilot must > have an AUSTRALIAN Medical Certificate. > > > > I'm not sure how this morphed into the requirements for > foreign pilots, but there is a separate page dedicated to > foreign pilots at the following link:- > > http://www.glidingaustralia.org/GFA-Ops/foreignpilots.html > > > > Christopher Thorpe > > > > > > *From:*[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *jim crowhurst > *Sent:* Thursday, 10 October 2013 9:37 PM > *To:* aus soaring > *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > I have just been reading the medicals section of the OPS part > of the GFA website and was looking at the FAQ. With respect to > overseas pilots, I am confused.... > > /*I am an Australian Citizen but hold a Class 1/Class 2 > Medical Certificate issued overseas. Can I use this to meet > GFA's medical requirements?*/ > > / No. You must hold a Medical Certificate issued by an > Australian Registered Doctor or DAME./ > > > > This means that regardless of any medical obtained overseas, a > visiting pilot on holiday MUST see an Australian doctor and > get signed off if they have ever had any of the exclusions, > even if they hold a class 1 or 2 medical in their country. > Some of the conditions are quite common in the age group of > pilots that visit Australia. Surely if they have been signed > off in the UK or USA or Germany for example they would meet > requirements here? Is there any reciprocal arrangement with > certain countries? > > > > My concern is that Australia may lose out on overseas pilots > coming to visit because of the medical requirements. Has this > always been this way or are these new regulations? > > > > This is more stringent than EASA, and that's saying something! > > > > Can someone knowledgeable explain the rules for overseas > pilots or is it simply that "if you can't self certify, see an > Australian doctor" and hope they sign off? > > > > It's not exactly convenient....... > > > > thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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