Excellent. So no issues then. Grietje
On 11/10/13 7:07 PM, Christopher Thorpe wrote: > > And most foreign pilots will be able to self-declare, so this is > really a storm in a tea-cup. The odd pilot who can't get an > acceptable certificate overseas but needs one can visit an Australian > GP and be assessed to the Austroads standards. An Australian GP > charges significantly less than $400. > > > > *Christopher Thorpe* > > > > *From:*[email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Grietje Wansink > *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 6:58 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > Most glider pilots from Europa don't hold a Medical Class 2 but a > medical for gliding. This is going to be an issue. > To get a Medical Class 2 in the Netherlands is 400 AUD. > > Grietje > > On 11/10/13 6:51 PM, Christopher Thorpe wrote: > > The law as it stands in Australia, and also in most other parts of > the world for that matter, is that the pilot's Medical Certificate > must be issued by the State that issued the licence under which > the pilot is flying. > > > > What is unique to Australia is that CASA does not recognise an > overseas licence for flying gliders in Australia. To fly gliders > here a person must be a member of the GFA and fly under the GFA > pilot certification process. Hence a person flying on an > Australian pilot certificate must have an Australian Medical. > > > > Now GFA has never had authority to accept a Medical Certificate > issued by other than an Australian Registered Medical > Practitioner. The reason this has not previously been an issue is > that overseas pilots were most likely self-declaring their medical > status, which still remains an option. However, now that > Instructors must have a Medical Certificate, the matter of foreign > pilot medicals became an issue because there are a number of > foreign pilots coming to Australia to instruct. > > > > So GFA approached CASA on this subject and stressed the value of > the doctor/patient relationship, and it was agreed that a > certificate from a GP with access to the patient's medical history > is preferred. So we now have an agreement in principle that > foreign pilots who hold a valid ICAO Class 2 or higher Medical > Certificate (or equivalent documentation) issued by their > licencing state may fly gliders in command while that Medical > Certificate remains current. > > > > It is anticipated that CASA will shortly approve an amendment to > our Operational Regulations to reflect this. > > > > So while it is unfortunate that a handful of Australians with an > overseas medical can't use it here, those foreign pilots entering > Australia with their overseas issued licence and medical won't be > inconvenienced. > > > > *Christopher Thorpe* > > > *From:*[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Matt Gage > *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 5:52 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > However, the crazy situation is that if a US pilot holds a class 2 > medical, they can fly here using that unless they gain Australian > citizenship, at which time they have to suddenly self certify or > get an Australian class 2 > > > > Or an Australian who has lived overseas for many years is unable > to use their class 2 on a brief holiday here > > > > Looks like we have badly thought through regs, or possibly the > interpretations on the web site are too simplistic. I hope it's > the latter > > Matt > > > On 11 Oct 2013, at 17:25, "Christopher Thorpe" > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > An Australian flying on an Australian pilot certificate who is > ineligible to self-declare their medical status must hold an > Australian Medical Certificate. This is the case even if an > Australian also holds citizenship of another country. > > > > If the person holds dual citizenship of countries other than > Australia and they are ineligible to self-declare, then they > will need to provide a Medical certificate issued by the State > that issued their Pilot's Licence. > > > > > > > > *Christopher Thorpe* > > > > > *From:*[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf > Of *Ron Sanders > *Sent:* Friday, 11 October 2013 4:30 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > What about those who hold dual citizenship?? > > > > > > > > On 10 October 2013 21:53, Christopher Thorpe > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > The Q&A means exactly what it says. An AUSTRALIAN pilot > must have an AUSTRALIAN Medical Certificate. > > > > I'm not sure how this morphed into the requirements for > foreign pilots, but there is a separate page dedicated to > foreign pilots at the following link:- > > http://www.glidingaustralia.org/GFA-Ops/foreignpilots.html > > > > Christopher Thorpe > > > > > > *From:*[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *jim crowhurst > *Sent:* Thursday, 10 October 2013 9:37 PM > *To:* aus soaring > *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Medicals > > > > I have just been reading the medicals section of the OPS > part of the GFA website and was looking at the FAQ. With > respect to overseas pilots, I am confused.... > > /*I am an Australian Citizen but hold a Class 1/Class 2 > Medical Certificate issued overseas. Can I use this to > meet GFA's medical requirements?*/ > > / No. You must hold a Medical Certificate issued by an > Australian Registered Doctor or DAME./ > > > > This means that regardless of any medical obtained > overseas, a visiting pilot on holiday MUST see an > Australian doctor and get signed off if they have ever had > any of the exclusions, even if they hold a class 1 or 2 > medical in their country. Some of the conditions are quite > common in the age group of pilots that visit Australia. > Surely if they have been signed off in the UK or USA or > Germany for example they would meet requirements here? Is > there any reciprocal arrangement with certain countries? > > > > My concern is that Australia may lose out on overseas > pilots coming to visit because of the medical > requirements. Has this always been this way or are these > new regulations? > > > > This is more stringent than EASA, and that's saying something! > > > > Can someone knowledgeable explain the rules for overseas > pilots or is it simply that "if you can't self certify, > see an Australian doctor" and hope they sign off? > > > > It's not exactly convenient....... > > > > thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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