"I don't understand why a few friends can't get gliding licenses, buy a
low-performance 2nd hand glider, and winch launch from a paddock
somewhere. You don't need to have an instructor present to have fun in
a boat or an ultralight. You don't even need to be in a formal club.
It'd be as lost-cost and low-effort as you could get."

I did that for a decade under CAO 95.4 and it was ‘wunnerful’ Al.
Only had to come back under the tattered umbrella because of my move 
interstate. 
I do pull my weight regardless of my view of the ‘system’ with several 
voluntary positions.

Chris

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Borowski 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 1:44 PM 
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes 

Hi Paul,


On 02/09/2014, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Frankly, I am more interested in maintaining a simple and inexpensive
> system to fly gliders in Australia. Given the fragile state of of
> participation in gliding I fear that any rise in complexity and / or cost
> will simply drive more people away. You say "When our newcomers realise
> that they will always be treated as second class aviators we can't blame
> them when they vote with their feet." Well I have been involved in gliding
> for some fourteen years now, with a reasonably sized club and I am yet to
> encounter any pilot being too worried about being classed as "second class
> aviator".

Maybe I'm just unusual, but that's how I felt under the GFA system. I
started off flying at Caboolture with some great people. I then moved
to the RAA world and loved the ability to say "Next weekend I'm going
for a two hour flight" -  which in decent weather was pretty
realistic. At Caboolture, at least with my skills, this would be very,
very unlikely on most days.

After exposure to the RAA I found it ridiculous that, unless I wanted
to be a gliding instructor, the GFA insisted I was a student who
needed to be supervised forever.  Even after getting an L1 independent
operator cert for motorgliders (great fun!), a club would still be
responsible for my actions. Why should they be? If I do something
dumb, it's my fault, not theirs.

I don't understand why a few friends can't get gliding licenses, buy a
low-performance 2nd hand glider, and winch launch from a paddock
somewhere. You don't need to have an instructor present to have fun in
a boat or an ultralight. You don't even need to be in a formal club.
It'd be as lost-cost and low-effort as you could get.

If we had a real CASA issued gliding license I'd knock the dust off my
logbook tomorrow.

cheers,

Al
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