I wonder how many of them were off a winch from 1200 ft? Cheers
Paul On Dec 27, 2014 8:29 PM, "druddock" <[email protected]> wrote: > From memory there have been about 26 fatalities as a result of spin > training in the Puchaz. > If you want to release the controls in a spin go ahead but please don't > take anyone with you > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Anthony Smith <[email protected]> > Date: > To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" < > [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ASK21 spinning was Re: Spin training > > > Bergfalke IV decays into a spiral dive unless pro spin controls are held. > If you hold pro spin controls, it still decays into a spiral dive after > three or so rotations. > > > > Bocian used to stay in a spin until positive recovery controls were > applied. Cath Conway told me way back when that anything Polish liked to > spin. > > > > Anyone tried letting go of the controls in a spin with a Puchaz? > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Peter (PCS3) > *Sent:* Saturday, 27 December 2014 7:57 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] ASK21 spinning was Re: Spin training > > > > Page (v) > *7. Some spins continued indefinitely if controls were released during the > developed spin.* > How many other gliders do this? I am pretty sure the Blanik self recovers > from a spin but have never tested it! :-) > PeterS > > On 27/12/2014 8:26 AM, Ulrich Stauss wrote: > > > http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john.cochrane/research/Data_and_Programs/CFI/AFFTC-TR-89-27%20Spin%20Test.pdf > > > > Ulrich > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ron Sanders > *Sent:* Saturday, 27 December 2014 08:44 > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training > > > > Bernard, good morning, i would lke o read that report too please? > > > > Ron > > > > On 27 December 2014 at 08:18, Bernhard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Paul, good morning all > > > > You might be interested to know that the US Air Force has already been > using the ASK21 for spin training over several > > decades. > > > > Therefore you might want to refer to a report by the US Air Force on the > spin characteristics of the ASK 21. It was done > > by experts in the field and true professionals. When you read the > report you will find that it was perhaps the most > > comprehensive study into the subject ever done. > > > > To save you digging around I have attached a copy for you! > > > > Kind regards to all > > > > Bernard > > > > > > > On 26 Dec 2014, at 10:05 pm, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 26 December 2014 at 19:33, Daryl Mackay <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Suffice to say no instructor willingly uses the ASK21 for spin awareness > training at Beverley. > > > > Hi Daryl > > > > Would you mind explaining why? This is a genuine inquiry as my club is > about to take a delivery of one. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Paul > > > > > > > Cheers > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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