From
http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2005/a05o0204/a05o020
4.asp 

“In 1990, a Puchacz spinning accident that resulted in two fatalities was
investigated by the Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB). It was
determined that the glider had inadvertently entered a spin at an altitude
that was too low to allow for recovery. In 2004, the United Kingdom Air
Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) investigated a Puchacz spinning
accident that resulted in two fatalities. The AAIB report1
<http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2005/a05o0204/a05o02
04.asp#N_1>  noted that Puchacz gliders had been involved in five previous
spinning accidents in the United Kingdom, four of which resulted in
fatalities, and the majority of which were the result of inadvertent spins.

The AAIB report made reference to a British Gliding Association (BGA) -
sponsored low-speed handling trial of the Puchacz that was conducted in 1994
in response to three fatal Puchacz spinning accidents between 1990 and 1993.
The trial was flown by test pilots and instructors. The Puchacz spin
recovery was judged against the following standard spin-recovery technique,
as outlined in Joint Aviation Regulation (JAR) 22, Acceptable Means of
Compliance:

1.      Check ailerons neutral.
2.      Apply rudder opposite spin.
3.      Ease control column forward until rotation ceases.
4.      Centralise rudder and ease out of ensuing dive.

 

The Canadian equivalent to JAR 22 is the Canadian Aviation Regulations
(CARs), Part V - Airworthiness, Standards, Airworthiness Manual Chapter 522,
which covers airworthiness standards for gliders and powered gliders.

The trial confirmed that the glider was compliant with JAR 22; however, it
considered two areas worthy of additional comment. The glider was considered
only marginally compliant in respect of stalls during turns, and it was
noted that avoidance of uncontrolled rolling and spinning off a turn was
reliant on pilot awareness and skill. The trial also noted that the height
loss in a spin was significantly greater than on other glider types and that
this was largely due to the steep attitude (70º nose down) of the developed
spin.”

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of stephenk
Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2014 1:06 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ASK21 spinning was Re: Spin training

 

Mike,
you've made this claim before. I assume it is another incident, not the
Caracole one (because they weren't that high, nor were they ex test pilots) 
But I've never been able to find any other references to an accident like
this and the NTSB database only seems to show up 4 Puchacz accidents in
total


EventId

InvestigationType

AccidentNumber

EventDate

Location

Country

Latitude

Longitude

AirportCode

AirportName

InjurySeverity

AircraftDamage

AircraftCategory

RegistrationNumber

Make

Model


20040730X01116

Accident

LAX04CA270

07/18/2004

Lone Pine, CA

United States

36.588333

-118.051944

O26

Lone Pine

Non-Fatal

Substantial

        N19SZ

PDPS PZL-BIELSKO

SZD-50-3


20040406X00422

Accident

FTW04LA103

04/04/2004

Cherry Valley, AR

United States

35.370834

-90.750556

                Non-Fatal

Substantial

        N18SZ

PDPS PZL-Bielsko

SZD-50-3


20030605X00794

Accident

LAX03LA165

05/26/2003

Minden, NV

United States

39.000278

-119.750833

MEV

Minden-Tahoe Airport

Non-Fatal

Substantial

        N503HC

PZL-Bielsko

SZD-50-3


20001211X10620

Accident

LAX98FA235

07/17/1998

CALIFORNIA CITY, CA

United States

                                Fatal(2)

Destroyed

        N7215L

PZL-Bielsko

SZD 50-3


Do you have any other references?

Regards
SWK


On 27/12/2014 10:22 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote:

Well one was two USAF test pilot school graduates from at least 3500 feet
AGL.

 

Mike




On 27 Dec 2014, at 7:03 pm, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:

I wonder how many of them were off a winch from 1200 ft?

Cheers

Paul

On Dec 27, 2014 8:29 PM, "druddock" <[email protected]> wrote:

>From memory there have been about 26 fatalities as a result of spin training
in the Puchaz.

If you want to release the controls in a spin go ahead but please don't take
anyone with you

 

 

 

 

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