I agree with David.

I am ok with the two final changes he is suggesting for 9810 (the arch to arc 
in section 9) and (using user-supplied in section 8.7).

Thank you for all your work!

John Gray



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RFC Editors, thank you for your update incorporating our requests.
I am basically fine with all changes.

I just noticed two minor glitches that crept in with them, which could be fixed 
as follows.

Section 8.7:

OLD

Passwords generated from user generated entropy

NEW

Passwords generated from user-generated entropy

or even better:

NEW:

Passwords generated from user-supplied entropy


Section 9:

OLD

arch

NEW

arc


Still, if the other authors agree, I would not mind if these two items are kept 
unchanged.

    David


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Hi Authors and Deb*,

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