On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:03:06 +0100 Nino Novak <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 02:40, Elder Dan Lewis wrote: > > Nino Novak wrote: > > > On Monday 26 October 2009 15:35, Elder Dan Lewis wrote: > > > > How big is the database in this tutorial? > > very small (it's an appointment scheduler) > > > Perhaps it might be a > > great help if it is large enough. Does it require the use of SQL in > > creating some of its queries? > > The goals of the document are primarily to learn and understand the > principles and usage of a data base "by doing" (what are > tables/forms/queries...? How do I create and use them efficiently?) > > SQL use is not described as the document is a starter and > concentrates on the basics of OOo Base. > > > One of the things that has bothered me is that many of the > > guides for OOo are written in English and then translated into the > > other languages. I personally believe that there are many people > > using a variety of languages which could be writing parts of these > > guides, and these could then be translated into the other languages > > including English. Unless someone knows what the original English > > document from which it was translated, it would be nice if one of > > your team members would translate it into English to be placed in > > the tutorial section of the English Documentation. Just a thought. > > We are not a real "team", we are a volunteer community ;-) > > > > What I want to do in the Base Guide is to describe the process > > of going from a general idea of the data someone has and what he > > wants to do with the data to the finished database. Zoltan from > > Hungury has suggested a business application database, and I really > > like this idea. I want it to be a fairly large and complex database > > to demonstrate how to create such a database using Base. > > Well: try it :-) > > My personal opinion is that for beginners you should start as simple > as possible. The mentioned tutorial uses a very simple data > structure. You can add complexity later, when the basics are > understood. > > > Unless the > > document to which you referred does this, I know of no documentation > > on Base which does this. > > > > Dies ist meine zwei pfennig. :-) > > > > Your comments are not discouraging to me at all. I don't want > > to "reinvent the wheel", but I do want to redesign it so that it > > will do more things. And I too would like to see an English > > translation of the document you mentioned. It may well serve a very > > useful purpose as a starting point for what I would like the Base > > Guide to become. > > That's what I was thinking when I saw your outline discussions ;-) > > Nino Can I put in a suggestion here? Last year I did a course on using databases using Access. However, the principles would be the same. They started out with a flat file database. We learnt how to enter data, use forms, tables and reports. Then after we had mastered that we went on to relational databases. That was a fairly good plan I thought, as there is a lot to assimilate when you are starting out with a new software and new concepts. Many of the other people in the course had never used a database of any sort before. I always intended going through the course again this time with OOObase, just to see how relevant the course was to OpenOffice. This summer maybe. So I agree that a beginner's chapter on databases should not dive straight into relational databases until the basic steps of building a simple database are covered. Shelagh -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jabber: [email protected] Skype: shelagh2648 ----------------------------------------------------------------
