Hi, Margaret, May I bother you a little more on our probable connection at Arrifes?
I thought my Raposos were all from Ponta Delgada, but John Miranda Raposo kindly told me that they were in fact from Arrifes. His sources indicate that my gggggggrandfather Tomé Raposo (married to Sebastiana da Costa), who died before Dec 1735, was from Arrifes and had the following sons, besides my ggggggrandfather Pedro: Antonio (married to Vitoria Cordeiro and then to Maria de São José), Gonçalo (married to Maria Pereira), Silvestre (married to Joana Botelho) and Domingos (married to Antonia Carvalho). Pedro was christened in freguesia of the Patriarch São José, Ponta Delgada, as did his brothers Gonçalo and Silvestre, but the family seems to have later moved to the freguesia of S. Sebastião, in Ponta Delgada. Tomé Raposo and Sebastiana da Costa of Arrifes are my brickwalls, unsurmountable so far. You know, after 200 years oblivion water produces a kind hang-over that compels people to seek their forgotten relatives. Can you help? Thanks a lot, Marcos. 2010/1/11 <[email protected]<azores%[email protected]> > > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/azores/topics > > - Duarte's Tavern Pescadero > CA<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_group_thread_0>[5 > Updates] > - Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_group_thread_1>[4 > Updates] > - Digest for [email protected] - 16 Messages in 9 > Topics<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_group_thread_2>[1 > Update] > - All of the > Islands<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_group_thread_3>[1 > Update] > - Disappointment with > microfilms...HELP!<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_group_thread_4>[2 > Updates] > > Topic: Duarte's Tavern Pescadero > CA<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/ef7da007e54fbd6c> > > "Linda Norton" <[email protected]> Jan 10 11:24AM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > When I went to CA five or six years ago, time flies, I had gone to SF > for > the first time and then drove down the coastline. I did stop at > Duarte's, a > great rustic tavern. The food was fabulous especially the Dungeness > Crab, > their signature dish, as the assortment of pies. > > If you are around that area visiting, you have to stop in. > > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > "E" Sharp > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:00 PM > To: azores > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Duarte's Tavern Pescadero CA > > Interesting article on Duarte's Tavern in Pescadero - thinking of going > here > is a few weeks for dinner. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101971206 > > ""E" > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2610 - Release Date: > 01/09/10 > 14:35:00 > > > > > elaa <[email protected]> Jan 10 10:46AM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > I'm curious about the pronounciation of the name Duarte here as DOO- > art. I have found current generations pronouncing it this way. My > Duarte grandparents and relatives from the Azores always pronounced it > Dew-art-ee or Due-war-tee. I'm wondering how the current residents in > the Azores pronounce it. Or if the name is in your genealogy...how do > you pronounce it? > > > Loretta in California > > > > > Cheri Mello <[email protected]> Jan 10 10:57AM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > DOO-art > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, > Achada > > > > > John Vasconcelos <[email protected]> Jan 10 01:31PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > We went to Duarte's several years ago and had the Artichoke soup for > lunch. > Great place. There is also a Portuguese hall on the main street there > also. > At nearby Pidgon point there is an old light light house. If I'm not > mistaken.there was also a shore whaling station on the coast nearby at > one > time. The area is definitely worth a days outing. > John Vasconcelos > > > > > > Mary Bordi <[email protected]> Jan 10 04:19PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > On Jan 10, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > > DOO-art > > And as an aside--the people of Pescadero say (for example), "I had > breakfast at Dwart's this morning..." :) > > Mary Bordi > > > > Topic: Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/89bde6e30cebc3ea> > > [email protected] Jan 09 06:38PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Thanks "E". > > Will try that. > > Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "E" Sharp <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2010 2:49 pm > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence > > > This looks like it could be St. Cruz. Don't know what Bria is? This > was written by a non-Portuguese who was spelling from a broken English > pronunciation at best. I ran into this with one of my family's > records and they really slaughtered the spelling. > > "E" > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that > says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > > [email protected] Jan 09 08:43PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Thanks for all your efforts. It will help us sort out the > possibilities. > > Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:32 pm > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence > > > In a message dated 1/9/2010 5:49:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > This looks like it could be St. Cruz. Don't know what Bria is? This > was written by a non-Portuguese who was spelling from a broken English > pronunciation at best. I ran into this with one of my family's > records and they really slaughtered the spelling. > > "E" > > If Bria was pronounced Br-EYE-uh, then could it be Pr-EYE-uh, as in > Praia da Vitória in Terceira? If it is prounced Br EE yuh, then I have no > idea. > > JMR > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that > says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > > Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> Jan 10 01:21PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Hi Pat, > > When I viewed the document, "Bria St Crez" I instinctively thought it > to > mean "Praia Santa Cruz" and doing a google search, it confirmed it. > Here's > the link > > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_(Praia_da_Vit%C3%B3ria) > > > > > > [email protected] Jan 10 03:00PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Thanks Margaret. It could be the island of Terceira since Faial would > still be the departure. > It certainly looks possible. I will forward this on to my cousin and we > will try to research further. > I haven't seen many Pinheiros (or Pines) on Faial. Maybe they were on > Tercira. > Thanks again for all your effort, > > Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, Jan 10, 2010 10:21 am > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence > > > Hi Pat, > > When I viewed the document, "Bria St Crez" I instinctively thought it > to mean "Praia Santa Cruz" and doing a google search, it confirmed it. > Here's the link > > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_(Praia_da_Vit%C3%B3ria) > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Cheri and Margaret. > > I will pass on the information. I am including a copy of the > naturalization where it was listed. > > Thanks again, > Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome, Irvine, California > researching Sao Miguel and Pico > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 1:41 pm > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fregoisia on Faial for Bria St. Cres. > residence > > > Hi Pat, > > I find the wording to be anglosized because no one uses Street and > Crescent simultaneously, and I would suggest the word "Bria" is intended > for > "PRAIA". There 2 places; Praia do Norte e Praia do Almoxarife in Faial. > > Praia do Norte was depopulated due to volcanic activity...I would start > with Almoxarife records. > > Regards, > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Pat, > > You might want to scan the document (or provide the URL) where this > info was found. > > I don't research Faial. A list of the freguesias (villages) and > churches on Faial are on the Azores Genweb below. Nothing seems close to > me. > Maybe it will to other Faial researchers. > > http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/faial.html > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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Click in the blue area on the > right that > says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > Topic: Digest for [email protected] - 16 Messages in 9 > Topics<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/eef2580e9dbddcc4> > > Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> Jan 10 12:51PM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Hi Marcos, > > I was trying to think of the term but that's it "oblivion water". Glad > to > know it's passé and that if our gene lines crossed in the past may it > come > to light in the future. ; ) > > mv, > > > > > > Topic: All of the > Islands<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/67822b41be3f33b0> > > "Linda Norton" <[email protected]> Jan 10 11:11AM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Sao Miguel. > > Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] All of the Islands > > > > Pico, Sao Jorge, Flores, Fial > > > > Beverly Avila Marcelo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nancy jean baptiste" <[email protected]> > To: "azores group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2010 8:44:09 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] All of the Islands > > Sao Jorge, Pico, Santa Maria, Graciosa > > Nancy Jean Baptista > > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:25:18 -0500 > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] All of the Islands > To: [email protected] > > > > Sao Miguel. > > -Trevor Costa > (Washington DC) > > In a message dated 1/6/2010 8:43:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Happy New Year to all, > I thought it might be nice if we found what Islands are represented in > our > group. > My interested is Santa Maria. > > -- > sfig > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > > _____ > > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up > <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/> now. > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, > Abridged, > or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this > group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area > on > the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.129/2605 - Release Date: > 01/07/10 > 02:35:00 > > > > Topic: Disappointment with > microfilms...HELP!<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/2c8eeb04df08361f> > > Terri <[email protected]> Jan 09 07:43PM -0800 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > My mom was the last of 11 children and she never met my great > grandfather but from what she knows...he died around the age of 60 > years old? That would make it around maybe ...1942? I'm assuming in > Agua'Alto (because that's what my mother thinks...)but before > Wednesday...i will try to contact someone else in the family who may > know better. > Thanks again Shirley! > P.S. Do you find it is easier looking up birth , death or marriages? > > > > > > "Linda Norton" <[email protected]> Jan 10 11:05AM -0500 > ^<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=eMfy7FqWafI.pt_BR.&am=!5GA6FQbNn1G5A3Gi0fgGIitGXn19dknb4PNa9hCwCgCFDA#1261bd512efc2f08_digest_top> > > Hi Terri, Shirley, Rick, > > Rick do you think this is my Mariano Pimental Furtado? My Mariano m. > Maria > de Jesus or was that Mariano's mother's name?? Jose was his brother as > your > Francisco born around that time frame. > > What do you think? Though they are from Ribeira Grande and not Villa > Franca. > > Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of > Shirley Allegre > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Disappointment with > microfilms...HELP! > > Hi Terri: On Wednesday, (13th) I will look for birth info for Jose > Pimentel, son of Mariano Pimentel X Maria de Luz. I will search around > 1870-1883. The film ends in 1883. > Do you know when, and where this Jose Pimentel lived and died? Dates? > > Shirley in CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terri" <[email protected]> > To: "Azores Genealogy" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:39 PM > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Disappointment with microfilms...HELP! > > > Hi Shirley...I'm wondering what document might give me the most > information to continue with? Birth? Marriage? or Death? I would > appreciate so much if you could check for the birth of Jose Pimentel > Andrade (my mom says..ANDRADE might not be included in as part of his > last name...) born circa 1880 possibly at the Sao Miguel Archanjo > church. He's the son of Mariano Pimentel and Maria de Luz. If this > can't be found...then maybe you could check if his marriage was at > that church. Jose Pimentel Andrade married Maria de Conceicao Couto > circa 1900 or earlier? Thanks > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2610 - Release Date: > 01/09/10 > 14:35:00 > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<azores%[email protected]>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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