I think Rosa may have been a girlfriend or close friend....it sounds like they may have been somewhat affluent because "the Father" took his town's Regent(Mayor) with him to the city to appeal his case. And the way he writes seems to indicate a father/son relationship...I would check it further, perhaps other correspondence may give you more clues.
Margaret On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Janet Terry <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I think the age was backwards, because at that year my grandfather > was about 22. The father in this letter is his stepfather because family > lore has it that his mother and father never married. I would love to know > more about my grandfather but have almost nothing to go on. I'm guessing > that Rosa is his mother. > > Janet > > > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Margaret Vicente < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The names mentioned are Manuel, Rosa and Jose Amaro. The Colonel, Base >> Commander of Infantry # 27. >> >> The letter is complete and is standard to form and typical of running >> into top margins. The "Father" mentions having gone to see the Commanding >> Officer of the Infantry # 27 to see if there was anything he could do but >> that all they cared about was that he hadn't shown up and that he was >> including a note written by the Officer with the exact wording the doctor >> should write de doctor's note to be presented at the Portuguese Consulate >> in America and for Manuel to mail the note back by registered mail because >> the Father needed it back also. >> >> He also says to Manuel "to present himself in January and to say he was >> in America for a short time, did not make any fortune and to please be >> patient and do as his father was bidding him to to save himself the >> embarrassment at the age of 42 and you will never be your own person again >> if you don't do as I'm telling you to do and there's no more to say about >> this." >> >> Note worthy is the age of 42 he mentions. Army enlistment was at the age >> of 20 or 19. Standard serving time would be 2 years. Did he write >> backwards, was Manuel 24? >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Janet Terry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Wow ! thank you. Was there any mention of other names? Did the >>> father sign the letter? >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2012 9:58 PM, "Margaret Vicente" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > If I may add to Janet's .. it is a father writing to a son. >>> > >>> > He writes: I am writing to you not because I have received a letter >>> from you but from the letter you sent to Rosa. My son, I am letting you >>> know they were looking for you with orders to march on the 12th and because >>> you are not here things are turning ugly.......he goes on to say that his >>> mother takes to bed every time she ears about his situation thinking about >>> him. He also says that if he shows by January for him to advise he was >>> away for a very short time and that he should say he was sick and that Jose >>> Amaro will know what to say to a doctor who will do him the favour but that >>> it must be in secret and not for the Consulate to know. >>> > >>> > Margaret Vicente >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:07 PM, BaltarFamily < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi Janet, >>> >> >>> >> Portuguese is my primary language. I looked quickly at the scan. >>> .Tthe last page looks like it is missing as the text is not totally >>> completed. It's about the military service in Madeira Island. Manoel wasn't >>> in Madeira at the time he was required to show up for the military service. >>> In Portugal military service is mandatory. So, whoever was writing the >>> letter - there is no mention about the sender - was trying to give him >>> advice on how to proceed at the Portuguese Consulate. If you want it >>> translated, let me know. >>> >> >>> >> Isabella Baltar >>> >> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:58:37 PM UTC-4, Jterry wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello >>> >>> I came across some old letters and documents from my grandparents >>> just >>> >>> the other day. I'm very excited about it except they are in >>> >>> Portuguese! How do I go about getting them translated? I've >>> attached >>> >>> them here as PDF file. I'm not sure how they read because the pages >>> >>> are folded so the right side is the first page then turning it over >>> >>> I'm not sure if the page reads across or down one side and then the >>> >>> other. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the help and suggestions. >>> >>> Janet Terry >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. 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