Group,

Though not as thorough as some of the discussion has been, here, a fun listen 
can be found on youtube, if you search "pronuncia micaelense".  The clip was 
posted by someone called Helfimed.

-Trevor Costa


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From: John Vasconcelos <[email protected]>
To: azores <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese



David, 

Let me add my perspective to this subject. I was born in central California to 
parents from the Island of Flores. My mother had been in this country only 4 
years when I was born so for all practical purposes, my first language was 
Portuguese. I spoke very little English when I started elementary school. In 
spite of that, I had forgotten most of my Portuguese by the time I got to High 
School. Then, a family of cousins immigrated from Flores and settled nearby and 
little by little, I started speaking Portuguese again. 

Then within a time span of about 3 years,  I a)  Took my first trip to the 
Azores, b) Accepted a Job in Brazil, c) Married a Brasileira with 3 kids. (I 
might add that the first few weeks in Brazil, I had a H--- of a time 
undestanding them and visa versa). That was over 40 years ago. Now when I go to 
the Azores, I often am asked what part of Brazil I'm from and when I go to 
Brazil, I'm often asked what part of Portugal I'm from.

Adding to what Cheri said, there is no single Azorean accent. The Sao Miguel 
and the Terceira accents are the most distinct. I might also add that education 
level also has an influence. Older less educated people seem to have a more 
pronounced local accent  while the younger more educated who may have gone to 
college usually speak a more "standard" Portuguese. The caretaker at the 
cemetary in Santa Cruz Flores the last time I was there, had an unmistakable 
Sao Miguel accent. 

John Vasconcelos




On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, David Perry <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm starting to learn Portuguese and everything I see and hear doesn't sound at 
all like what I remember as a child while listening to my born in Sao Miguel 
father talking to his relatives and neighbors, all of whom spoke only 
Portuguese.  For instance, I specifically remember very well two words:  "legs" 
which my father pronounced pad-nish (doesn't sound at all like what I see in a 
dictionary - pernas) and chourico which my father pronounced shoo-dees.  How 
different is the Sao Miguel Portuguese from Lisbon Portuguese?  Are there a few 
general rules I can follow such as "r's sound like d's" or "drop the ending 
vowel" as in the two examples above?
David   

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