I was wondering if you can actually see any document with the "Surra" name.
Did someone interpret the handwriting incorrectly?


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Diane,
>
> I tried to respond yesterday, but my email is flaky.
>
> When using the Minho site, you must be really careful, because there are
> so many errors and mistakes in judgement. But I must say the ones done
> personally by Norberta Amorim are the best and she did the one for Sao
> Mateus and Sao Joao and also wrote the book on it.
>
> They will combine names when they see differences, such as a mother being
> Maria Josefa one time and Maria de Jesus another time, they combine as
> Maria Josefa de Jesus, even though she might never once been listed as
> that. I wrote before that the way I handle that is to write her name as
> "Maria Josefa ou Maria de Jesus" in my program.
>
> About Surra, I've never heard of it, but it's obviously an alcunha
> (nickname). I haven't bothered to look up the meaning. Apparently they have
> seen that name listed one time, maybe at death, and if so, that's a nice
> piece of trivia about this person.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record Translation Help
> From: Diane Geoge <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, October 31, 2013 11:10 am
> To: <[email protected]>
>
> Hi,****
> ** **
> I have two record from the NEPS database for Manuel Ferreira Surra:****
> ** **
> From Madalena:****
> ** **
> Manuel Ferreira    Surra    ****
>                Born on 29 November 1733 - s mateus ****
>                Died on 2 December 1794 - madalena ****
>                Age at death: 61 years old ****
> Parents ****
>                Antonio Ferreira Garcia Azevedo   ****
>                Ana Silveira   ****
> Marriages and children ****
>                Married on 14 May 1764 to  Maria Teresa   1744, with ****
>                 Ana ?   1765 ****
>                Ana ?   1767 ****
>                Maria Joaquina   1769 ****
>                Manuel ?   1772 ****
>                Francisca ?   1775 ****
>                Joao ?   1779-1779 ****
>                Rita ?   1780 ****
>                Antonio ?   1783 ****
>                Joao ?   1788-1788 ****
> ** **
> From Sao Mateus:****
> ** **
> Manuel Ferreira    Surra    ****
>                Born on 29 November 1733 ****
>                Died ****
> Parents ****
>                Antonio Ferreira Garcia Azevedo   ****
>                Ana Silveira   ****
> Marriages and children ****
>                Married on 14 May 1764 to  Maria Teresa   1744, with ****
>                 Ana ?   1765-1765 ****
>                Ana ?   1767 ****
>                Maria ?   1769 ****
>                Manuel ?   1772 ****
>                Francisca ?   1775 ****
>                Joao ?   1779-1779 ****
>                Rita ?   1780 ****
>                Antonio ?   1783 ****
> ** **
> I found the two attached records for a Manuel with the same dates (I
> think). The problem I have is that I can’t figure out how the database
> entry for “Surra” was derived nor can I find any indication that “Surra” is
> a Portuguese surname. ****
> ** **
> There are other mysteries revolving around the database entries, but those
> are for another day. I am hoping that someone can read and translate the
> two records I found and offer any insights on the “Surra” name. The file
> names indicate the page number and database of the image on the CCA site.*
> ***
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