Could the name be Manuel Faria Silva or da Silva?

 

Diane George

 

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mances
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record Translation Help

 

The godparent is Domingos Dutra.

Maybe it´s Manuel Ferreira Dutra.

 

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2013 17h11min01s UTC-2, Marilyn Thompson
escreveu:

I was wondering if you can actually see any document with the "Surra" name.
Did someone interpret the handwriting incorrectly?

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:> > wrote:

Hello Diane,

 

I tried to respond yesterday, but my email is flaky.

 

When using the Minho site, you must be really careful, because there are so
many errors and mistakes in judgement. But I must say the ones done
personally by Norberta Amorim are the best and she did the one for Sao
Mateus and Sao Joao and also wrote the book on it.

 

They will combine names when they see differences, such as a mother being
Maria Josefa one time and Maria de Jesus another time, they combine as Maria
Josefa de Jesus, even though she might never once been listed as that. I
wrote before that the way I handle that is to write her name as "Maria
Josefa ou Maria de Jesus" in my program.

 

About Surra, I've never heard of it, but it's obviously an alcunha
(nickname). I haven't bothered to look up the meaning. Apparently they have
seen that name listed one time, maybe at death, and if so, that's a nice
piece of trivia about this person.

 

Good luck,

 

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618

www.dholmes.com <http://www.dholmes.com> 

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Record Translation Help
From: Diane Geoge <[email protected] <javascript:> >
Date: Thu, October 31, 2013 11:10 am
To: <[email protected] <javascript:> >

Hi,

 

I have two record from the NEPS database for Manuel Ferreira Surra:

 

>From Madalena:

 

Manuel Ferreira    Surra    

               Born on 29 November 1733 - s mateus 

               Died on 2 December 1794 - madalena 

               Age at death: 61 years old 

Parents 

               Antonio Ferreira Garcia Azevedo   

               Ana Silveira   

Marriages and children 

               Married on 14 May 1764 to  Maria Teresa   1744, with 

                Ana ?   1765 

               Ana ?   1767 

               Maria Joaquina   1769 

               Manuel ?   1772 

               Francisca ?   1775 

               Joao ?   1779-1779 

               Rita ?   1780 

               Antonio ?   1783 

               Joao ?   1788-1788 

 

>From Sao Mateus:

 

Manuel Ferreira    Surra    

               Born on 29 November 1733 

               Died 

Parents 

               Antonio Ferreira Garcia Azevedo   

               Ana Silveira   

Marriages and children 

               Married on 14 May 1764 to  Maria Teresa   1744, with 

                Ana ?   1765-1765 

               Ana ?   1767 

               Maria ?   1769 

               Manuel ?   1772 

               Francisca ?   1775 

               Joao ?   1779-1779 

               Rita ?   1780 

               Antonio ?   1783 

 

I found the two attached records for a Manuel with the same dates (I think).
The problem I have is that I can’t figure out how the database entry for
“Surra” was derived nor can I find any indication that “Surra” is a
Portuguese surname. 

 

There are other mysteries revolving around the database entries, but those
are for another day. I am hoping that someone can read and translate the two
records I found and offer any insights on the “Surra” name. The file names
indicate the page number and database of the image on the CCA site.

  

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