Rick, Here's the info from Dr. Ernesto do Canto:
DOM: 19 march 1648 André Carvalho is the son of Antonio Carvalho from Ponta Delgada. (The record doesn´t list the mother). Beatriz Ferreira is the daughter of Domingos Ferreira. (The record doesn´t list the mother) Manoel Em quarta-feira, 12 de fevereiro de 2014 00h10min43s UTC-2, Richard Francis Pimentel escreveu: > > *Thanks Manoel, * > > > > *Information was coming so fast last week on this couple I forgot what you > had said. This makes them about 10 years older than I had estimated and the > span of children somewhere around 30+ years.* > > > > *This is the marriage that was sent last week > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P4.html > > <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P4.html> > > top right.* > > > > *I think I even commented about it. Did Canto give the names of the > parents? I can only close my eyes and imagine with this record.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto: > [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *mances > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:32 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:> > *Cc:* [email protected] <javascript:> > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Andre de Carvalho & Beatriz Ferreira > Ginetes 1635-17?? > > > > Rick, > > > > As I said in my previous post the marriage of André Carvalho and Beatriz > Ferreira took place on 19 march 1648. The record is on line in the CCA and > is in the Canto's index as well. > > They had their first child baptized (feito os exorcismos) on 20 feb 1649. > > Here's the link, the first one on the right side: > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P114.html > > > > Manoel Cesar Furtado > > > > Em terça-feira, 11 de fevereiro de 2014 23h00min34s UTC-2, Richard Francis > Pimentel escreveu: > > *This discussion of this couple was started under another thread but I > thought it is worth continuing in a new thread.* > > > > *I have been trying to reconcile this couple Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz > Ferreira who are my 7th great grandparents with Carlos Machado and the > records I have found. * > > > > *Machado lists Andre Carvalho Benevedes b. about 1637 married to Beatriz > Ferreira b. about 1637 Married about 1680. He also lists two daughters > Marianna Carvalho b. about 1657 and Beatriz Ferreira b about 1677. Obvious > these dates are incorrect. * > > *Machado also has Marianna Carvalho b. 1657 marrying to Manuel Rodrigues > 28 Mar 1677 in Ginetes. I found this record for Marianna Carvalho and > Manuel Rodrigues: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html > > <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html> > > The date is 28 Mar 1677 Manuel Rodrigues son of Pedro Rodrigues and Isabel > Moreira (dec) with Marianna Carvalha daughter of Andre de Carvalho and > Beatriz Ferreira. He also has Beatriz Ferreira marrying Pedro de Sousa 30 > Oct 1707 in Ginetes. * > *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html > > <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html> > > The date is 30 Oct 1704 Pedro de Sousa son of Francisco Gonsalves and > Catherina de Sousa wed Beatriz Ferreria daughter of Andre Carvalho de > Benevedes and Beatriz Ferreira. Machado had 30 Oct 1707. * > > > > *At this point I will say that the Machado I am using is from the disk > that was transcribed by Rev Viverios. The true accuracy needs to be > determined by looking at the original manuscript. Needless to say it is > useful in searches.* > > > > *I have also found this record: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html > > <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html> > > The date is 6 Nov 1705 Joam Carvalho son of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz > Ferreira weds Lucia Martins the daughter of Joao Martins and Aguela > Rodrigues. This marriage was not in Machado.* > > > > *At this point I have Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira with 3 > children Marianna, Joam and Beatriz. All three married I know Joao had > descendants. The birth range of the three children seems to be from 1657 to > 1683 a span of 26 years. With Marianna being born around 1657 and Beatriz > being born around 1683 (based on marriages). Because of the range I would > make a safe assumption that Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira were > married around 1657 placing their births around 1635.* > > > > *Care needs to be taken when sorting out these records in the book > 1646-1713 for Sao Sebastiao in Ginetes as the names Carvalho, Rodrigues, > Sousa are numerous and easy to confuse. What I have above appears correct > according to the records . * > > > > > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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