Rick,

Sebastião Roiz son of Pedro Roiz Crespo and Luzia da Costa

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 12 de fevereiro de 2014 14h46min39s UTC-2, Richard Francis 
Pimentel escreveu:
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> *I think I just found another daughter of Andre Carvalho & Beatriz 
> Ferreira.  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P37.html
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> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P37.html>
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> upper left.*
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> *A marriage on 6 Mar 1686  Sebastiao Perreira son of of Pedro Perreira ? 
> and Luzia de ? wed Isabel Carvalha daughter of Andre Carvalho and Beatriz 
> Ferreria. It is hard for me to read so another set of eyes would help.*
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> *Rick*
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> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
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> *Spring, TX*
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> *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto:
> [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Francis 
> Pimentel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:01 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:>
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho & Beatriz Ferreira 
> Ginetes 1635-17??
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> *This discussion of this couple was started under another thread but I 
> thought it is worth continuing in a new thread.*
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> *I have been trying to reconcile this couple Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz 
> Ferreira who are my 7th great grandparents with Carlos Machado and the 
> records I have found. *
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> *Machado lists Andre Carvalho Benevedes b. about 1637 married to Beatriz 
> Ferreira b. about 1637 Married about 1680. He also lists two daughters 
> Marianna Carvalho b. about 1657 and Beatriz Ferreira b about 1677. Obvious 
> these dates are incorrect. *
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> *Machado also has Marianna Carvalho b. 1657 marrying to Manuel Rodrigues  
> 28 Mar 1677 in Ginetes. I found this record for Marianna Carvalho and 
> Manuel Rodrigues: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html
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> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html>
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> The date is 28 Mar 1677 Manuel Rodrigues son of Pedro Rodrigues and Isabel 
> Moreira (dec) with Marianna Carvalha daughter of Andre de Carvalho and 
> Beatriz Ferreira. He also has Beatriz Ferreira marrying Pedro de Sousa 30 
> Oct 1707 in Ginetes. * 
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html
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> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html>
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> The date is 30 Oct 1704 Pedro de Sousa son of Francisco Gonsalves and 
> Catherina de Sousa wed Beatriz Ferreria daughter of Andre Carvalho de 
> Benevedes and Beatriz Ferreira. Machado had 30 Oct 1707. *
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> *At this point I will say that the Machado I am using is from the disk 
> that was transcribed by Rev Viverios. The true accuracy needs to be 
> determined by looking at the original manuscript. Needless to say it is 
> useful in searches.*
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> *I have also found this record: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html
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> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html>
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> The date is 6 Nov 1705 Joam Carvalho son of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz 
> Ferreira weds Lucia Martins the daughter of Joao Martins and Aguela 
> Rodrigues. This marriage was not in Machado.*
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> *At this point I have Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira with 3 
> children Marianna, Joam and Beatriz. All three married I know Joao had 
> descendants. The birth range of the three children seems to be from 1657 to 
> 1683 a span of 26 years. With Marianna being born around 1657 and Beatriz 
> being born around 1683 (based on marriages). Because of the range I would 
> make a safe assumption that Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira were 
> married around 1657 placing their births around 1635.*
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> *Care needs to be taken when sorting out these records in the book 
> 1646-1713 for Sao Sebastiao in Ginetes as the names Carvalho, Rodrigues, 
> Sousa are numerous and easy to confuse. What I have above appears correct 
> according to the records .  *
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> *Rick*
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> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
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> *Spring, TX*
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