Margaret and JR. I don’t think that the Matheus and Josefa you document below are my ancestors. It might help if I invite you to my tree, where I have all of the documentation I found for my line of ancestors. Are you both on ancestry.com? I can invite you if you give me your email addresses.
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:19:07 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: > > Hi Joseph and JR, > > I am a direct descendent of Antonio Jacome Raposo and Maria Pacheco Moniz > through their daughter Antonia Francisca. JR you helped me with this line. > Thank you. > > This is to say that I have Josefa on my tree and I have her marriage > record. She married Matheus in 1736, same year of my ancestor Antonia > Francisca.. Both the bride and groom are using different surnames. He, > Correia and she Rezendes. It is very bad to read but you will be able to > see clearly Josefa Francisca NOTE the surname used is "de Rezende" "fa de > Antonio Jacome Raposo". Here's the link: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P138.html > > Cheers, > > Margaret > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM, JR <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> I am getting confused. No doubt, this is Matheus son of someone named >> Costa. However there are others, not to mention that Mateus may fetch his >> name from a grandparent with the name Costa. >> >> Do I have this right, is your Mateus and Josefa married circa 1750? If >> so, this Matheus of 1705 is not likely your ancestor. There are about four >> to six marriages missing in Ponta Garca, all circa 1745-1751, more or less. >> There is no doubt they are missing because other records specify that these >> people were married in PG. They include mine and some of Cheri Melo and >> Shirley A. I think your missing ancestors *may* be among the missing >> marriages. On the other hand, I reread the baptism of Andre and notice that >> Josefa is native of VFSM, so that makes it likely they married in her vila >> of VFSM. By the way, Canto is name that is hard to come by. There are only >> a few that I know of. Most turn out to be Couto. >> >> This is what I have. There may be some errors, as they were very >> difficult to read with a small reader at the LDS. But they can be easily >> fixed now. Here are children of said couple: >> >> >> >> *Descendants of Matheus da Costa* >> >> >> >> >> >> *Generation No. 1* >> >> >> >> *1.* MATHEUS DA1 COSTA was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da >> Piedade, and died Bef. 21 May 1777. He married JOSEFA PACHECO Abt. >> 1750. She was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. >> >> >> >> More About JOSEFA PACHECO: >> >> Date born 2: Abt. 1725, Vila Franca, Matriz >> >> >> >> Children of MATHEUS COSTA and JOSEFA PACHECO are: >> >> i. ANTONIA FRANCISCA DOS ANJOS2, b. Ponta Garca- >> NS da Piedade; m. ANDRE DA CAMARA PACHECO, 22 May 1777, Ponta Garca- NS >> da Piedade; b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. >> >> ii. ANTONIO DA COSTA DE ARAUJO, b. Ponta Garca- NS >> da Piedade; m. MARGARIDA FRANCISCA, 20 Jun 1779, Vila Franca do Campo- >> Matriz; b. Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. >> >> iii. JACINTA DO ESPIRITO SANTO, b. Vila Franca, >> Matriz; m. JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO, 21 Mar 1776, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 25 >> Mar 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. >> >> >> >> More About JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO: >> >> Baptised: 01 Apr 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:09:36 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >> >>> Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio >>> da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores. >>> gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG- >>> VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html >>> >>> I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted >>> previously. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of >>> Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? >>> > >>> > JR >>> > >>> > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: >>> > Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, >>> according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or >>> VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. >>> > >>> > JR >>> > >>> > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >>> > In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having >>> great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and >>> Josefa da Pacheca. >>> > >>> > Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores. >>> gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG- >>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html >>> > >>> > >>> > Here is her death record from 1788: >>> > >>> > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is >>> definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. >>> >>> > > >>> > > Here is Matheus" birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: >>> > > >>> > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >>> VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html >>> > > >>> > > Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: >>> > > >>> > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html >>> > > >>> > > Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in >>> 1753: >>> > > >>> > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> Joseph, >>> > >> >>> > >> How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the >>> mother is not listed with Pacheco/a? >>> > >> I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and >>> Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule >>> out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research. >>> > >> >>> > >> Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling >>> of your Joao da Costa? >>> > >> I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. >>> > >> >>> > >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >>> > >> Sacramento, California >>> > >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >>> > >> 916-550-1618 >>> > >> www.dholmes.com >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -------- Original Message -------- >>> > >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth >>> record >>> > >> -- can't really read it) Help! >>> > >> From: Joseph Costa <[email protected]> >>> > >> Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am >>> > >> To: [email protected] >>> > >> >>> > >> Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this >>> does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't >>> find my Joam..... >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >>> > >>> I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da >>> Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the >>> son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or >>> Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand >>> page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need >>> help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this >>> record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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