JR, what program do you use to document your information? I like how it organizes the information. Right now, I only use ancestry.com to document my pedigree..
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:46:10 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: > > I am getting confused. No doubt, this is Matheus son of someone named > Costa. However there are others, not to mention that Mateus may fetch his > name from a grandparent with the name Costa. > > Do I have this right, is your Mateus and Josefa married circa 1750? If so, > this Matheus of 1705 is not likely your ancestor. There are about four to > six marriages missing in Ponta Garca, all circa 1745-1751, more or less. > There is no doubt they are missing because other records specify that these > people were married in PG. They include mine and some of Cheri Melo and > Shirley A. I think your missing ancestors *may* be among the missing > marriages. On the other hand, I reread the baptism of Andre and notice that > Josefa is native of VFSM, so that makes it likely they married in her vila > of VFSM. By the way, Canto is name that is hard to come by. There are only > a few that I know of. Most turn out to be Couto. > > This is what I have. There may be some errors, as they were very difficult > to read with a small reader at the LDS. But they can be easily fixed now. > Here are children of said couple: > > > > *Descendants of Matheus da Costa* > > > > > > *Generation No. 1* > > > > *1.* MATHEUS DA1 COSTA was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade, > and died Bef. 21 May 1777. He married JOSEFA PACHECO Abt. 1750. She was > born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. > > > > More About JOSEFA PACHECO: > > Date born 2: Abt. 1725, Vila Franca, Matriz > > > > Children of MATHEUS COSTA and JOSEFA PACHECO are: > > i. ANTONIA FRANCISCA DOS ANJOS2, b. Ponta Garca- NS > da Piedade; m. ANDRE DA CAMARA PACHECO, 22 May 1777, Ponta Garca- NS da > Piedade; b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. > > ii. ANTONIO DA COSTA DE ARAUJO, b. Ponta Garca- NS > da Piedade; m. MARGARIDA FRANCISCA, 20 Jun 1779, Vila Franca do Campo- > Matriz; b. Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. > > iii. JACINTA DO ESPIRITO SANTO, b. Vila Franca, > Matriz; m. JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO, 21 Mar 1776, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 25 > Mar 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. > > > > More About JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO: > > Baptised: 01 Apr 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade > > > > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:09:36 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >> >> Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da >> Costa and Barbara da Costa: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html >> >> >> I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted >> previously. >> >> >> On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of >> Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? >> > >> > JR >> > >> > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: >> > Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according >> to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I >> have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. >> > >> > JR >> > >> > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >> > In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having >> great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and >> Josefa da Pacheca. >> > >> > Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html >> >> > >> > >> > Here is her death record from 1788: >> > >> > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html >> >> > >> > >> > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is >> definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. >> >> > > >> > > Here is Matheus" birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: >> > > >> > > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html >> >> > > >> > > Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: >> > > >> > > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html >> >> > > >> > > Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in >> 1753: >> > > >> > > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> > > >> > >> Joseph, >> > >> >> > >> How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the >> mother is not listed with Pacheco/a? >> > >> I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and >> Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule >> out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research. >> > >> >> > >> Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling of >> your Joao da Costa? >> > >> I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. >> > >> >> > >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> > >> Sacramento, California >> > >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> > >> 916-550-1618 >> > >> www.dholmes.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> > >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth >> record >> > >> -- can't really read it) Help! >> > >> From: Joseph Costa <[email protected]> >> > >> Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am >> > >> To: [email protected] >> > >> >> > >> Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this >> does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't >> find my Joam..... >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: >> > >>> I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da >> Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the >> son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or >> Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand >> page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need >> help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this >> record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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