Baptismal records *are* legal documents in that they establish a date of birth by a duly appointed authority and are signed by witnesses, whereupon they are certified in the same manner as a birth certificate; as for their order of standing, they are second only to a notarized birth certificate. This culture should not be *new* to you as you are subject to these same requirements here and now, in any business or legal transaction (did you want a mortgage, or sell your house, or purchase something with a credit card)? You need to use your legal name. The alternative is to sign your legal name and add an "aka" - that process is cumbersome at best, and it is not always an option for certain transactions, under the law. As for name changes, they also reguire legal certification otherwise, you would have to sign documents using your *legal name. *One has only to look at present day matters where any person desiring to change his or her "legal" name must appear before a judge or magistrate and request such change before the court.* (My next tutorial on Law and Contracts will air in 25 minutes :) *
On Saturday, May 3, 2014 9:39:31 AM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote: > > Are baptismal records considered legal documents also? I am asking because > I have seen where people had dropped or added names over the years. What I > mean is, the name that was used on their marriage record might not be the > exact same name that is on the baptism of their last child. > > > > Thank you for continuing to help me understand a culture that is new to me! > > Erica > > > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto: > [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Dano > *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 10:20 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:> > *Subject:* Re: FW: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ajuda de Bretanha marriage 1729 > Mathias Carvalho and Margarida da Coucellos > > > > Let me add this reply to your question. This is a Marriage Record. It is a > legal document, that is, it deals with the legal names of the participants, > and the event that they are participating in; you ask if "Margarida" could > have been known as "Gertrude." She could have been "known" by any name she > wanted, however, in the legal document, her "name of record" would have > been used - as you can see... > > On Friday, May 2, 2014 9:56:50 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote: > > Could the mother of the groom be Maria de Benavides? I have found a Manoel > Carvalho and Maria de Benavides who had a son named Mathias in 1704 in > Mosterios. I think it might be the same couple. > > Erica > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Erica Botelho > *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 6:14 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Ajuda de Bretanha marriage 1729 Mathias > Carvalho and Margarida da Coucellos > > > > I am struggling with this record. I think I might be seeing what I WANT to > see instead of what it really says. I am looking for the marriage record of > Mathias Carvalho and Gertrude Coucellos. Mathias(Matheus) is from N.S. da > Conceicao of Masterios and Gertrude is from N.S. da Ajuda of Bretanha > according to their childrens’ baptismal and marriage records. Could > Margarida have been called Gertrude and became known as that name? > > > > I would love to know what people read for Mathias’ mother as well as all > the information on the bride. > > > > The record is on the right side > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P13.html > > > > Thank you, > > Erica Botelho > > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.

