I'm with Celeste, the other long timers and all the newbies on this list who sincerely appreciates all the hard work Cheri has put into maintaining the list in a friendly and professional manner...a great big THANK YOU, CHERI.
"E" On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Kathy Cardoza <[email protected]> wrote: > Doug and All Listers > > I’ve read the recent posts by Doug Holmes and now this response by Cheri > and felt like adding my two cents worth in….. > > You know, this list works the same way that every other list I’ve ever > belonged to does. That is, there could be hundreds or even a few thousand > subscribers, but only a small percentage of people actually post. The rest > lurk. They read and learn from the posts, but don’t post anything. I pretty > much count myself in that lurker group. I read the posts (most of them) but > rarely respond to any. That’s just human nature for most of us. I’m quite > certain, though, that we are all learning from what is posted here. > Further, I support Cheri 100%. She maintains this list, for the good of all > of us. It is not an easy task to keep us all on task and the discussions > pertinent to genealogy. She spends a lot of time and effort on this and > deserves our respect and appreciation for that. > > For those who may not know me, I am the coordinator of the Azores GenWeb > site. I’m responsible for maintaining the site and providing content to it. > It’s main purpose is to provide information and resources for beginning > genealogists. On the main page (link below) you will find a section on > Researchers for Hire. If you want to If you haven’t already checked it out, > I invite you to do so. > > Doug, I think you should count me as one of those folks who are unclear > about your intent by offering a “gift.” Frankly, I find it odd that you > would do so and, to me, it makes me uncomfortable. I’m not trying to > suggest that this is a scam……. just that it almost seems that way but I’m > sure that was not your intention? > > As for the free DNA testing you are offering……. on the surface that seems > very nice of you. But, I wonder …… is this something you will freely share > with others? Or will you somehow figure out how to charge the rest of us > for the information you are gleaning from it? I know from personal > experience with you when I shared my husband’s ancestry from Terceira, that > you like to accept what others send you to increase your database but offer > nothing in return ….. unless we pay for it. Is that what this is about? I’m > sure you have some supporters, but I’m not one of then. Not now. Not ever. > You are all about the money. You don’t share anything at all, unless you > get paid for your services. It’s just your way but you should, at least, be > up front about it. > > Kathy Cardoza > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html > > Climb my Family Tree: > http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > On May 17, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > Doug, > > I've posted from time to time how many subscribers are on this list. > Anyone can find that number by going out to the Web board/Forum board and > clicking the "About" link. The only reason I mention it is to make people > aware that they are emailing 1200 people, some of whom are still working or > have limited time on their hands. The list is active with genealogy posts > (sometimes 20 in a day) and I would like the posts to be meaningful for the > 1200 subscribers. Reading a single post that says "Thanks!" is imposing on > people's time and is not meaningful nor helpful in someone's genealogical > search. > > After teaching kids and teenagers math and then adults DNA and genealogy, > I know how it works. Teach something. You get questions from some of the > audience (class) at the end. People (even kids) raise their hand and ask > questions. The vast majority take the information that was presented and > walk away with it. Then there are the few people that come up and ask a > question in private. Same thing with this list. The vast majority of > people read, take the information, and walk away with it. Some people > raise their hand (post) their question for all to see. And a few email > privately to ask a question. > > Since your last post, I've received a number of emails about the > underlying intent of that post. You'll give people a gift who email you? > Geez, you're sounding like a used car salesman! All of us who have been > into this awhile know you do research for hire. It's posted on the Azores > GenWeb for all to see along with the list of other researchers for hire. > And when someone asks for a researcher for hire, I post that link. So if > you are drumming up business, just say so. But to bribe people with a > gift....sounds like those time share things where you sit for 3 hours and > listen to their spiel for the "gift" at the end. And we all know that many > of those things are shady. I'm sure you don't want to be known as the > "shady" genealogist! > > And the DNA offer? Sorry to tell you this, but we've already been doing > fundraising. We've raised funds for certain lines that we wanted tested > and the money was put into the General Fund at FTDNA. Basically an escrow > account. That way, I don't have to handle the money and try to keep track > of it. Money can create problems. Just giving money to one person with no > backing....I prefer the fiduciary set up that FTDNA has. And it was nice > having it there in another project I manage. People contributed money > towards a kit and then they decided not to pursue that line. FTDNA knew > who donated what and refunded it all back. Seriously, people are going to > send you money and for all we know, you're using it to buy something you've > been eyeballing! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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