I agree with Grace, Celeste, Kathy and others. And say my own thank you Cheri for all you work and action taken. Is ti just me or is thsi a bit of deja vu. I seem to recognise this wearing a diferent coat. Once again Cheri, many thanks. Hermano Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 11:04:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] List membership, posts, researchers for hire, DNA fundraising From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com
I'm with Celeste, the other long timers and all the newbies on this list who sincerely appreciates all the hard work Cheri has put into maintaining the list in a friendly and professional manner...a great big THANK YOU, CHERI. "E" On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Kathy Cardoza <kmacard...@me.com> wrote: Doug and All Listers I've read the recent posts by Doug Holmes and now this response by Cheri and felt like adding my two cents worth in..... You know, this list works the same way that every other list I've ever belonged to does. That is, there could be hundreds or even a few thousand subscribers, but only a small percentage of people actually post. The rest lurk. They read and learn from the posts, but don't post anything. I pretty much count myself in that lurker group. I read the posts (most of them) but rarely respond to any. That's just human nature for most of us. I'm quite certain, though, that we are all learning from what is posted here. Further, I support Cheri 100%. She maintains this list, for the good of all of us. It is not an easy task to keep us all on task and the discussions pertinent to genealogy. She spends a lot of time and effort on this and deserves our respect and appreciation for that. For those who may not know me, I am the coordinator of the Azores GenWeb site. I'm responsible for maintaining the site and providing content to it. It's main purpose is to provide information and resources for beginning genealogists. On the main page (link below) you will find a section on Researchers for Hire. If you want to If you haven't already checked it out, I invite you to do so. Doug, I think you should count me as one of those folks who are unclear about your intent by offering a "gift." Frankly, I find it odd that you would do so and, to me, it makes me uncomfortable. I'm not trying to suggest that this is a scam....... just that it almost seems that way but I'm sure that was not your intention? As for the free DNA testing you are offering....... on the surface that seems very nice of you. But, I wonder ...... is this something you will freely share with others? Or will you somehow figure out how to charge the rest of us for the information you are gleaning from it? I know from personal experience with you when I shared my husband's ancestry from Terceira, that you like to accept what others send you to increase your database but offer nothing in return ..... unless we pay for it. Is that what this is about? I'm sure you have some supporters, but I'm not one of then. Not now. Not ever. You are all about the money. You don't share anything at all, unless you get paid for your services. It's just your way but you should, at least, be up front about it. Kathy Cardoza~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 17, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: Doug, I've posted from time to time how many subscribers are on this list. Anyone can find that number by going out to the Web board/Forum board and clicking the "About" link. The only reason I mention it is to make people aware that they are emailing 1200 people, some of whom are still working or have limited time on their hands. The list is active with genealogy posts (sometimes 20 in a day) and I would like the posts to be meaningful for the 1200 subscribers. Reading a single post that says "Thanks!" is imposing on people's time and is not meaningful nor helpful in someone's genealogical search. After teaching kids and teenagers math and then adults DNA and genealogy, I know how it works. Teach something. You get questions from some of the audience (class) at the end. People (even kids) raise their hand and ask questions. The vast majority take the information that was presented and walk away with it. Then there are the few people that come up and ask a question in private. Same thing with this list. The vast majority of people read, take the information, and walk away with it. Some people raise their hand (post) their question for all to see. And a few email privately to ask a question. Since your last post, I've received a number of emails about the underlying intent of that post. You'll give people a gift who email you? Geez, you're sounding like a used car salesman! All of us who have been into this awhile know you do research for hire. It's posted on the Azores GenWeb for all to see along with the list of other researchers for hire. And when someone asks for a researcher for hire, I post that link. So if you are drumming up business, just say so. But to bribe people with a gift....sounds like those time share things where you sit for 3 hours and listen to their spiel for the "gift" at the end. And we all know that many of those things are shady. I'm sure you don't want to be known as the "shady" genealogist! And the DNA offer? Sorry to tell you this, but we've already been doing fundraising. We've raised funds for certain lines that we wanted tested and the money was put into the General Fund at FTDNA. Basically an escrow account. That way, I don't have to handle the money and try to keep track of it. Money can create problems. Just giving money to one person with no backing....I prefer the fiduciary set up that FTDNA has. And it was nice having it there in another project I manage. People contributed money towards a kit and then they decided not to pursue that line. FTDNA knew who donated what and refunded it all back. Seriously, people are going to send you money and for all we know, you're using it to buy something you've been eyeballing! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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