I contributed earlier when I felt I could help with something.  As of late I am 
I guess a "lurker".  I appreciate all the information and help I have received 
from many.
Certainly Cheryl, Rosemary, Eric and Doug have all helped me from time to time. 
 Cheryl I am very grateful you took this task on.
Eric helped me big time with Pleasanton people, the Anselmo's and Dutra's.  
Melanie really helped me with my Hawaiian connection.
I, like Cheryl Lawrence, was not offended by Doug's note.  I just thought he 
was trying to motivate us.  I'm sorry some people were unhappy.

Hopefully this is a minor bump in the road.
Thank You,
Pat Nostrome
Vieira Anselmo, Sao Miguel
Pereira Dutra, Pico
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Lawrence <[email protected]>
To: azores <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, May 18, 2014 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: List membership, posts, researchers for 
hire, DNA fundraising


I have been a "lurker" for a few years now. I try to help when I can, and have 
been helped greatly in return. I'm always looking for names I recognize, or 
villages where my ancestors came from, and am eternally grateful from the help 
of EVERYONE on this list. I also just might be the only person on here who 
wasn't offended by Doug's post. I saw no malicious intent whatsoever. I am 
disturbed by some of the reactions though, my mother (as I'm sure all your 
mothers did) taught me that if you can't say anything nice....then don't say 
anything at all. I hate to see the bickering among us, as most of us are one 
big family! (some even by blood!)  :)    




On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

I joined the list 2 years ago when I asked a question about DNA and got my 
reply from Cheri. She kindly spent almost 2 hours on the phone with me the next 
day and helped me get going. Now I definately am one of the LURKERS our there, 
it's not because I don't want to help but it's more that I really shouldn't. I 
don't know enough, I can't read the handwritten script at the CCA despite my 
computers best effort to clear up the images for me. But I look at every post 
that you all put up on the board, every one of them! I have learned so much, I 
don't ask many questions, I want to find some things myself. Please keep 
posting, keep teaching, I really appreciate all of you.
Mike
Leal Da Rosa, Piedade,Pico    Pinheiro, Cedros, Pereira, Faial


On Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:22:47 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:


Doug,

I've posted from time to time how many subscribers are on this list.  Anyone 
can find that number by going out to the Web board/Forum board and clicking the 
"About" link.  The only reason I mention it is to make people aware that they 
are emailing 1200 people, some of whom are still working or have limited time 
on their hands.  The list is active with genealogy posts (sometimes 20 in a 
day) and I would like the posts to be meaningful for the 1200 subscribers.  
Reading a single post that says "Thanks!" is imposing on people's time and is 
not meaningful nor helpful in someone's genealogical search.  


After teaching kids and teenagers math and then adults DNA and genealogy, I 
know how it works.  Teach something.  You get questions from some of the 
audience (class) at the end.  People (even kids) raise their hand and ask 
questions.  The vast majority take the information that was presented and walk 
away with it.  Then there are the few people that come up and ask a question in 
private.  Same thing with this list.  The vast majority of people read, take 
the information, and walk away with it.  Some people raise their hand (post) 
their question for all to see.  And a few email privately to ask a question.  


Since your last post, I've received a number of emails about the underlying 
intent of that post.  You'll give people a gift who email you?  Geez, you're 
sounding like a used car salesman!  All of us who have been into this awhile 
know you do research for hire.  It's posted on the Azores GenWeb for all to see 
along with the list of other researchers for hire.  And when someone asks for a 
researcher for hire, I post that link.  So if you are drumming up business, 
just say so.  But to bribe people with a gift....sounds like those time share 
things where you sit for 3 hours and listen to their spiel for the "gift" at 
the end.  And we all know that many of those things are shady.  I'm sure you 
don't want to be known as the "shady" genealogist!


And the DNA offer?  Sorry to tell you this, but we've already been doing 
fundraising.  We've raised funds for certain lines that we wanted tested and 
the money was put into the General Fund at FTDNA.  Basically an escrow account. 
 That way, I don't have to handle the money and try to keep track of it.  Money 
can create problems. Just giving money to one person with no backing....I 
prefer the fiduciary set up that FTDNA has.  And it was nice having it there in 
another project I manage.  People contributed money towards a kit and then they 
decided not to pursue that line.  FTDNA knew who donated what and refunded it 
all back.  Seriously, people are going to send you money and for all we know, 
you're using it to buy something you've been eyeballing!


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada




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