Wow! I am amazed to learn my husbands gr gr grandfather went in the Water Lily as part of an EXPEDITION to Australia. I always wondered how he and his 2 sons and his brother in law and many other azoreans left the Azores to go to the Goldfields. I wondered how all that came about because it had to cost big bucks to be outfitted to go to the goldfields in Australia. How can I get more information?
For years I've researched Antonio Jose de Lima and his two sons who were on that ship, the Water Lily. The sons names were Jacinto Jose de Lima and Jose Jacinto de Lima. Antonio's friend named Jacinto Jose Borges was also on the ship. He was the godfather to the two sons of Antonio and was actually his brother in law (married Antonio's wife's sister, Francisca. I searched the Creswick and Clunes Register in Australia and found the 2 "boys" listed many times mostly for court cases. I searched for the names JJ DE LIMA. There they were. The minors took each other to court for anything little thing. I sent away to Public Records Office Victoria and received copies of each article where they were mentioned. This gave me a lot of insight into their lives, comings and goings. I received a lot of help from people on the Rootsweb Goldfields List. I learned the Two sons became partners in the Humbug Hill Sluicing Company there in Victoria. One of them (Jacinto) married an English girl named Charlotte Staley but she died within 10 months of the marriage. I received a photo of her grave stone where his name is mentioned. Charlotte owned a fruit store there on Albert Street and I have an advertisement where Jacinto was selling the store and their furnishings from their upstairs apartment after she died because he was returning to the Azores. According to our family stories, they did make money and I believe they became property owners there in Ponta Delgada. After Jacinto returned to the Azores, he married his cousin/niece, Maria Adelaide Da Silva but then HE DIED WITHIN 3 months of that marriage. He sired a son who was given the exact name as his father. Fast forward many years later when I was cleaning out my mother in law's house upon her death- and I found a 32 page autobiography of Jacinto (the son) where he described his disappointment in that his father died and he was not introduced to society as might have been had he lived. His mother remarried a man whom he abhorred and wouldn't mention it and according to family story, the stepfather squandered the money. He was also very hurt that his mother sold all the properties that were his inheritance. I have photos of the mother and her sisters and one could see from their clothing and hair styles and jewelry that they had some wealth. I've wondered many times about how they were able to go to Australia and set up business and become part owners in the Sluicing company. One of the articles does mentions a Jacinto Dos Reis. I would like to know more about how the expedition came about; how it was financed. They travelled to Australia as "Unassisted" passengers, meaning they paid their own passage. Thank you for posting about the expedition and the ship and the names. Any information would be so welcomed. Maria Elena > On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Robyn Horan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi JR > > Some time ago Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva posted this - > > List of Azorean participants in an expedition to New Holland (Australia) to > look for Gold. > > They left S. Miguel in 28 July 1853 aboard the English boat “Water Lily”. The > trip took 108 days. They arrived on the 13th November. The expedition landed > in Geelong, main port of Por-Philip, a town as big as Ponta Delgada in the > 19th century. Then they took a ship to Melbourn and from there they went to > Fores Crick mines. > > The adventure was not profitable for them. The investors had a very big loss. > > João de Sousa Dourado, from Ponta Graça, was one of the feww who profited > from. For a long period of time he received interest on the money he invested > there. > > Jacinto António dos Reis married there and succeded in Melbourn. They were a > well knownand very considered family there. > > Commander and ship owner was Mr. John Busk (he had his wife and little > daughter on board). > > Crew members: > > - William Percey Notprued Luck - Squire Midshipman, son of an > English millionaire > > > - 2 pilots, one English, another American, a master Cook and 7 > sailors > > Passengers were: > > From Faial da Terra: > > - Joaquim Pereira > > - Francisco Pereira > > - João de Freitas > > - José de Freitas > > - José Raposo Cipriano > > - José Nogueira > > From Povoação: > > - Manuel Carreiro > > From Ponta Garça: > > - Jacinto Carreiro (sailor) > > - João de Sousa (sailor) > > - Francisco Estrela > > - José de Sousa Dourado (It appears to be the only one who did well > in the expedition) > > From Ribeira das Taínhas: > > - André > > - Miguel Furtado > > From Ribeira Seca , Vila Franca do Campo: > > - Francisco de Andrade > > - Manuel Furtado > > - António Furtado > > - José Furtado > > - Manuel de Amaral > > From Vila Franca do Campo: > > - José Furtado > > - António de Hilário > > - mestre Mariano de Sousa (nickname: batata), (today the word mestre > is used to designate a man who is a knower of his art; also means a mason) > > - mestre José de Oliveira > > - António de Sales > > - mestre João da Estrela > > - João Correia > > From Água d’Alto: > > - mestre Felício Botelho > > - Francisco Botelho (nickname: pataca) > > - Francisco Furtado > > From Porto Formoso: > > - Manuel Bento > > From Ponta Delgada: > > - João Gomes, mestre canteiro (mason who worked/carving the stone) > > - Manuel José (nickname:bispo) > > - mestre Manuel Dias > > - António de Freitas > > - António José de Lima > > - José de Lima > > From Capelas: > > - Manuel Raposo > > From S. Vicente: > > - Inácio de Viveiros > > - Nicolau da Câmara > > - Manuel Vicente > > From Arrifes: > > - Bento Ferreira > > - José da Câmara > > From S. Jorge : > > > - Manuel de Amarante > > From Lagoa: > > > - João José Tavares > > - Francisco José Tavares > > - António José Tavares > > - FrancIsco Inácio Botelho Âmbar > > Passengers who have paid the ticket: (Because of the names, I can say some of > them belonged to the whealthy/noble families of Ponta Delgada) > > - João Francisco Gomes, (brother of the expedition doctor) > > - Jose Manuel Gomes, expedition doctor > > - Jacinto António dos Reis > > - João Lourenço > > - Simplício Gago da Câmara > > - Diniz Gago da Câmara (brother of the above, partner in the > investment with his brother ) > > - José de Arruda Botelho > > - Nicolau de Arruda > > - António Borges da Câmara Medeiros > > - Victorino Augusto Soares > > - João Jacinto Borges > > - Jacinto José de Lima, > > - J. Girard, french, interpreter > > - Frederico or Henrique José de Sampaio, bookeeper, clerck . > > 4 women were amongst the passengers but no names… > > Cheers > > Robyn > >> On 26 October 2014 15:05, A Faria <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi JR, >> >> There was no mass migration from the Azores to Australia although a few >> Whalers jumped ship in the 1800's and I believe some Azorean immigrants to >> Hawaii moved to Australia.. Mass migration from the >> >> Azores I am only aware of Brazil, United States, Hawaii before it became a >> state in 1959, Canada and Bermuda. >> >> I think some of the Portuguese immigrants to Australia were Madeiran >> immigrants that moved from South Africa but Madeira is a separate island >> chain. >> >> A.Faria >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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