Yes, DNA testing has shown people with African lineages. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Manita M <[email protected]> wrote: > This is very interesting. > > All my CCA records research are in the eastern part of Sao Miguel so > perhaps that is why I've never seen an "escravo" but I may not have noticed > it either as I'm still a newbie and not fully translating the records but > just focusing on the dates, names and places. > > I'm very curious to hear from others on this topic. > > Would the slaves have been "purchased" overseas and been brought to the > Azores? I'm assuming they mainly came from Northern Africa? > > I do know that at the time of settlement they brought slaves to help > populate but I had assumed they would have become "free" once they got to > the Azores. > > Hmmmmmmm. > > DNA-wise: > > Anyone with Azorean DNA must have some slave OR North African DNA. Of > course anyone from Southern Portugal has some North African already mixed > into them so that can also explain the DNA ethnic makeup, but back to > slaves. > > I am assuming the slaves came from Africa? > > Yes, I'm well aware that there was white slavery too but those white > slaves ended up in the Berbarian lands and in fact could be our pre-Azorean > ancestors but that's another topic. > > I just wonder if these slaves were already in mainland Portugal or Madeira > and then sent to the Azores or if they came to the Azores from Africa > directly? > > Interesting topic and would love to hear from anyone with knowledge on > this topic that could reference sources. > On Sep 3, 2015 7:01 AM, "MaryAnn Santos" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've seen a number of references to slaves - "escravos" - in the CCA >> records. My research is primarily in São Miguel. >> >> MaryAnn >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:29 AM, linda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 8:53:17 PM UTC-7, manita.morgado >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Slave? >>>> >>>> I've never seen or noticed that in a CCA records. I guess it could >>>> have been there and I didn't realize. >>>> >>>> Really? >>>> >>>> How common would this have been? >>>> >>> >>> As it happens, this week I've been going through early and mid 18th >>> century baptismal and marriage records for Angra and Horta. During this >>> period and in these two cities, references to slaves are relatively >>> common. I jotted a few notes as I went along, but wasn't trying to be >>> exhaustive in catching them, and for Angra Baptisms 1719-1729, I counted >>> about 20 records for slaves. Between 1710 and 1719, I noted at least 5 (by >>> then, I was growing tired of jotting page numbers, so there are probably >>> more). Though generally of babies, several of these baptisms were >>> of adults. I also observed two further records with English slave owners >>> rather than native Portuguese owners. In Horta I took note of four slave >>> records (two baptisms and two obits), and one baptism in Velas, Sao Jorge >>> as well (there are certainly more instances of slaves in the records of >>> these two cities, but I stopped noting them). Previously, I've observed >>> records for slaves in Lajes/Praya da Victoria, Terceira (possibly >>> elsewhere) too, but I don't have my notes about those to hand at the moment. >>> >>> Angra and Horta were two of the principal cities for the archipelago-- >>> the seats of commerce and government-- so that may account for the presence >>> of the slave populations there. These urban centers were populated by >>> some of the wealthier citizens of the islands. I inferred from names and >>> titles that many of the slave owners were of high social status. In two or >>> three cases, women were listed as the owners. The time period and >>> places are critical-- Portugal was one of the earlier countries to ban the >>> practice of slavery, IIRC-- my notes are on another computer-- but I'm not >>> sure now of the dates. If you have been going through 19th century records >>> and/or rural parishes, then you are less likely to have seen slaves >>> mentioned. Also, if you aren't a native speaker (I am not), then it's very >>> easy to pass over the word. I was also surprised the first time I >>> encountered and understood it. >>> >>> rambling thoughts late at night-- hope this is helpful, >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 4:28:30 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The child of eight days baptized March 7? 1659 son of one of the >>>>>> slaves by the name of Maria of (belonging to) Barbara of Sao Goncalo (S. >>>>>> Goncalo is the name of the area/place in S. Pedro) The Godfather was >>>>>> Sebastiao do Rego son of Francisco Martins >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Sandra Perez <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sebastiao's birth--bottom right. I think I see Goncalo Frz or Joao >>>>>>> Goncalo Frz and maybe Barbara. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667_item1/P90.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sandra Perez >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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