Olá Manita, Do you mean Benavente in Portugal (mainland)?
2015-11-02 17:34 GMT+00:00 Manita M <[email protected]>: > Hola! > > Is there anyone on this list that can share more information on the > history and story beyond what JR provided for João Afonso das Grotas Fundas? > > I'm heading to Portugal on the 14th and I'm seriously considering a detour > to Benavente, Spain but would like to be armed with more information. > > Does anyone have a CCA link to Joao Afonso death record or are you relying > on RR's information? > > Where was he born? Does anyone have that record? > On Sep 2, 2015 12:14 AM, "JR" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I will let people more knowledgeable about Joao Afonso discuss his >> history and story. >> >> For now I can tell you that Grotas Fundas is a neighbourhood, even today, >> on the eastern border of the village of Ponta Garca. Because of the hills >> and mountains, the town of Ponta Garca ends there and borders hills >> surrounding Ribeira Quente. There is a very nice beach at the bottom that >> was actually part of the property of Dr, Agusto Botelho de Simas. It was >> his summer home. He was a well known and respected doctor in the 1950-80 >> era, based in Vila Franca, now deceased. There is a bust of him in the main >> square honoring his life and work. The beach is now public with public >> access. From there you get fabulous views of the peninsulas jutting out >> into the ocean, east and west, and south is the ocean.. And you might even >> see whales or dolphins swimming by. Looking east is Ribeira Quente, but its >> view is blocked by a huge rolling hills, beautiful in their right. Looking >> west is the coastline leading to Vila Franca, easily visible, an >> outstanding view. >> >> The land is rich and suitable for farming and was covered by vineyards in >> times past, and I guess that's what made it so attractive to our ancestors. >> Apparently, other well known families from the upper class owned land >> there. There is a trail, still in use for hikers, that people took in the >> past, by foot and donkey from Grotas Fudas to Ribeira Quente. They were >> mostly cousins, farm workers and fisherfolk and exchanged produce and >> goods. You often read about ancestors that lived in Grotas Fundas or the >> place called "Ribeira Quente, limit de fraguesia de Ponta Garca." It was >> also the shortest way to Ribeira Quente and Povoacao. Otherwise, you have >> to go north, way up to the main road, where essentially you are on top of >> hill. There is a long, winding and steep road, called the Guiteria that >> starts at Grotas Fundas and makes it way up the main road. It is pastoral >> and you might encounter cows on the moo-ve! Sorry couldn't resist. At the >> top you will be rewarded with a vista of the whole of Ponta Garca and Vila >> Franca. Take your camera! >> >> JR >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 9:02:45 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: >>> >>> I would like the answer to that question too! >>> >>> I have a few questions: >>> >>> 1. What is the story? >>> >>> I tried to read the section on him in "Familias Antigas Povoação" but my >>> Portuguese is limited. I only recognize words ...something about torture, >>> abandon, going to Rome to ask the Pope for forgiveness, walking to Santiago >>> de Compostela and building a hospital. >>> >>> 2. What is the controversy? >>> >>> 3. Is there further study being done on him? What other source records >>> exist on him? >>> >>> 4. Now that we have DNA testing. Is it possible now to prove who he >>> was? >>> >>> I'm completely fascinated. >>> >>> 5. Also. Where exactly if Grotas Fundas? I want to go visit this >>> place when I go to Sao Miguel next week. >>> >>> Looking foward to any information you have on him. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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