Sandra,

Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record.

Here's what I read:
" ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles 
ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao proibido impetrão breve de ..? 
santidade ..."
"...uma menina filha de João Camelo e Bárbara Moniz, que entre eles 
houveram e por serem parentes em grau proibido impetram breve ..? 
santidade.."

Manoel


Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 11:00:35 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Thank you.  Manoel did I have Joao Camelo Pereira and Barbara Monis' 
> marriage and their daughter, Maria's, early birth correct?  Why would 
> they wait five years to marry?
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, mances <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and 
>> Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period.
>> Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think 
>> that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt.
>>
>> Manoel 
>>
>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 19:56:31 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona Barbara 
>>> Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel
>>> Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira (no 
>>> marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records).  There seems to be close ties 
>>> of this family to Manoel Furtado's family.  Do you know of any Furtados 
>>> connected to the Camelo Pereiras?  I did find a Manoel Furtado for padrinho 
>>> for 
>>> one of their children born in Fernais da Ajuda.  Also, I just found Joao 
>>> Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis' marriage, however their daughter, Maria was 
>>> born way before they married!  Tell what you think.
>>>
>>> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis 12 Nov 1679.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P169.html
>>>
>>> Maria 10 Feb 1674--top right.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699_item1/P37.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM, mances <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira
>>>>
>>>> The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros
>>>>
>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors 
>>>> too. They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book.
>>>>
>>>> Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the RR 
>>>> book as well. I have common ancestors with these people too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manoel César Furtado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 18:11:04 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Need help with bride's father and the first witness.
>>>>>
>>>>> 12 Oct 1611 Sebastiao Vieira Machado fo Gaspar Vieira Rocha e Maria 
>>>>> Lourenco da Costa
>>>>> married Barbara de Medeiros fa ? Camelo Pereira e Guimar Alvres 
>>>>> Pinheira.
>>>>>
>>>>> Witnesses: ? de Medeiros e Antonio de Paiva.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P108.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandra Perez
>>>>>
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