What does it say?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:15 AM, mances <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sandra,
>
> Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record.
>
> Here's what I read:
> " ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles
> ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao proibido impetrão breve de ..?
> santidade ..."
> "...uma menina filha de João Camelo e Bárbara Moniz, que entre eles
> houveram e por serem parentes em grau proibido impetram breve ..?
> santidade.."
>
> Manoel
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 11:00:35 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>
>> Thank you.  Manoel did I have Joao Camelo Pereira and Barbara Monis'
>> marriage and their daughter, Maria's, early birth correct?  Why would
>> they wait five years to marry?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, mances <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sandra,
>>>
>>> I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and
>>> Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period.
>>> Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think
>>> that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt.
>>>
>>> Manoel
>>>
>>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 19:56:31 UTC-3, Sandra Perez
>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona
>>>> Barbara Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel
>>>> Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira
>>>> (no marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records).  There seems to be close
>>>> ties of this family to Manoel Furtado's family.  Do you know of any
>>>> Furtados connected to the Camelo Pereiras?  I did find a Manoel Furtado for
>>>> padrinho for
>>>> one of their children born in Fernais da Ajuda.  Also, I just found
>>>> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis' marriage, however their daughter,
>>>> Maria was born way before they married!  Tell what you think.
>>>>
>>>> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis 12 Nov 1679.
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P169.html
>>>>
>>>> Maria 10 Feb 1674--top right.
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699_item1/P37.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM, mances <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sandra,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira
>>>>>
>>>>> The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros
>>>>>
>>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors
>>>>> too. They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the
>>>>> RR book as well. I have common ancestors with these people too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Manoel César Furtado
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 18:11:04 UTC-3, Sandra Perez
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need help with bride's father and the first witness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 12 Oct 1611 Sebastiao Vieira Machado fo Gaspar Vieira Rocha e Maria
>>>>>> Lourenco da Costa
>>>>>> married Barbara de Medeiros fa ? Camelo Pereira e Guimar Alvres
>>>>>> Pinheira.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Witnesses: ? de Medeiros e Antonio de Paiva.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P108.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandra Perez
>>>>>>
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