Hi,
At least some of the UPEC records are online at Ancestry at in a collection of death and burial records. California, Death and Burial Records from Select Counties, 1873-1987 http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 This might make the search easier. I don’t know if all the UPEC records are included or not. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:18 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alexander Souza immigration challenge Eric, what exactly are you trying to find? Your grandfather's place between his landing in the US and his marriage?? I don't think that you are going to find out how he ended up in Saucelito unless he had family he was coming to live with?? We sometimes find all of the docs we can and still never know the reasoning behind a move to a certain place. Usually it's because they had other Portuguese from their village or family in that place. I see that you haven't looked at the UPEC records for that area. I will look at the film on Tues when I go to work at the Family History Cntr here and see what I can find for you. Rosemarie <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com <mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com> > wrote: Dear Conterrâneos, I’ve been researching my Souza family heritage (Souza, Borba and Cunha descendants from São Jorge) and specifically how my great-grandfather came to Sausalito in the late 1800s (or possibly very early 1900s). A few months ago, this forum helped me identify the birth record for my great-grandfather, Alexander Souza <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html> , from Topo. I'm so grateful! My great-grandfather, Alexander Souza, was born August 7, 1882, in Topo, São Jorge, and died March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. His parents were Manoel Jozé da Cunha and Roza Delfina – he was the only son with the Souza surname – his four siblings were all named da Cunha, but his grandparents were de Sousa de Borba (which is likely why he was named Souza?). He had three sisters on São Jorge, and one brother - João da Cunha (born 1885 on São Jorge). He was also known on his probate (here is a link to download his probate <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57041182/Alex-Souza-Probate.pdf> ) as “Alexander Souza Borba” and “Alexander S Borba”. Family legend says he was a whaler. Since there are no records that I have found for him immigrating legally (no voting records in Marin County, CA, or listings on the Atlantic ship manifests into New Bedford), I am guessing he came over illegally on a whaling boat in 1897 or early 1898 when he was 15, to avoid conscription to the Portuguese military – required at age 16. He might have come on a whaling ship to one of the east coast ports. If so, once he jumped ship in New England (I’m assuming New Bedford), he would have likely taken the train over to San Francisco. I have been in contact with the New Bedford Whaling Museum, and they said they only have records of the whalemen who shipped from the port of New Bedford. But if I can identify the name of a vessel, they I could contact Joan Barney, the librarian in the genealogy room at the New Bedford library. Apparently, they have some shipping records in their collection for a select number of vessels and some of them do list the names of those who joined mid-voyage. Again, that's all speculation on my part. There were no Atlantic whalers that went on pacific voyages after 1892, so he wouldn't have taken a boat directly to San Francisco. There is no record that I have found of him between his birth and his marriage in 1907 to Mary Catan Mancebo in Sausalito. There were dairies in Sausalito and Mill Valley (specifically Tennessee Valley) that were owned by immigrants from São Jorge. A da Cunha family (I think it was Manoel Ferreira da Cunha, born Oct 1848, São Jorge) owned a large dairy there. Then there was another dairy shown on the 1880 Census by partners Antonio Souza (born about 1850), Antonio Borba (1853), August Silva (1846) and Manuel Souza (1859). I'm guessing that these were possibly cousins, but I haven't been able to identify the connection to any of them. There was also an Alexander Souza showing up in Point Reyes (western Marin County) on the 1900 census, but the ages don’t match up … also an Alexander Souza Borba in the East Bay ... my Alex's padrinho was Alexandre de Souza de Borba (born 1857) ... So that's a basic recap of where I am in my search for how Alexander Souza ended up in Sausalito! I've talked with the IDESST Portuguese Hall in Sausalito, and they don't have many old records showing members from before the 1950s, since there was a fire at one point and many records were lost, and the Hall was also moved ... Thanks, Eric -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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