Diane, only the death records nothing else and I'm not even sure that ALL of them are there.
Rosemarie [email protected] Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Diane George <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > At least some of the UPEC records are online at Ancestry at in a > collection of death and burial records. > > > California, Death and Burial Records from Select Counties, 1873-1987 > > http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 > > > > This might make the search easier. I don’t know if all the UPEC records > are included or not. > > > > Diane George > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci > *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:18 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alexander Souza immigration challenge > > > > Eric, what exactly are you trying to find? Your grandfather's place > between his landing in the US and his marriage?? I don't think that you are > going to find out how he ended up in Saucelito unless he had family he was > coming to live with?? We sometimes find all of the docs we can and still > never know the reasoning behind a move to a certain place. Usually it's > because they had other Portuguese from their village or family in that > place. I see that you haven't looked at the UPEC records for that area. I > will look at the film on Tues when I go to work at the Family History Cntr > here and see what I can find for you. > > > > > Rosemarie > > [email protected] > > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear Conterrâneos, > > > > I’ve been researching my Souza family heritage (Souza, Borba and Cunha > descendants from São Jorge) and specifically how my great-grandfather came > to Sausalito in the late 1800s (or possibly very early 1900s). A few months > ago, this forum helped me identify the birth record for my > great-grandfather, Alexander Souza > <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html>, > from Topo. I'm so grateful! > > > > My great-grandfather, Alexander Souza, was born August 7, 1882, in Topo, > São Jorge, and died March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. His parents were Manoel > Jozé da Cunha and Roza Delfina – he was the only son with the Souza surname > – his four siblings were all named da Cunha, but his grandparents were de > Sousa de Borba (which is likely why he was named Souza?). He had three > sisters on São Jorge, and one brother - João da Cunha (born 1885 on São > Jorge). > > > > He was also known on his probate (here is a link to download his probate > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57041182/Alex-Souza-Probate.pdf>) as > “Alexander Souza Borba” and “Alexander S Borba”. > > > > Family legend says he was a whaler. Since there are no records that I have > found for him immigrating legally (no voting records in Marin County, CA, > or listings on the Atlantic ship manifests into New Bedford), I am guessing > he came over illegally on a whaling boat in 1897 or early 1898 when he was > 15, to avoid conscription to the Portuguese military – required at age 16. > > > > He might have come on a whaling ship to one of the east coast ports. If > so, once he jumped ship in New England (I’m assuming New Bedford), he would > have likely taken the train over to San Francisco. I have been in contact > with the New Bedford Whaling Museum, and they said they only have records > of the whalemen who shipped from the port of New Bedford. But if I can > identify the name of a vessel, they I could contact Joan Barney, the > librarian in the genealogy room at the New Bedford library. Apparently, > they have some shipping records in their collection for a select number of > vessels and some of them do list the names of those who joined mid-voyage. > > > > Again, that's all speculation on my part. There were no Atlantic whalers > that went on pacific voyages after 1892, so he wouldn't have taken a boat > directly to San Francisco. > > > > There is no record that I have found of him between his birth and his > marriage in 1907 to Mary Catan Mancebo in Sausalito. > > > > There were dairies in Sausalito and Mill Valley (specifically Tennessee > Valley) that were owned by immigrants from São Jorge. A da Cunha family (I > think it was Manoel Ferreira da Cunha, born Oct 1848, São Jorge) owned a > large dairy there. Then there was another dairy shown on the 1880 Census by > partners Antonio Souza (born about 1850), Antonio Borba (1853), August > Silva (1846) and Manuel Souza (1859). I'm guessing that these were possibly > cousins, but I haven't been able to identify the connection to any of them. > > > > There was also an Alexander Souza showing up in Point Reyes (western Marin > County) on the 1900 census, but the ages don’t match up … also an Alexander > Souza Borba in the East Bay ... my Alex's padrinho was Alexandre de Souza > de Borba (born 1857) ... > > > > So that's a basic recap of where I am in my search for how Alexander Souza > ended up in Sausalito! I've talked with the IDESST Portuguese Hall in > Sausalito, and they don't have many old records showing members from before > the 1950s, since there was a fire at one point and many records were lost, > and the Hall was also moved ... > > > > Thanks, > > Eric > > > > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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