This link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-C-1808-1825/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-C-1808-1825_item1/P74.html
brief info 9 June 1823, morning no impediments Manoel Jose Machado filho de Antonio Machado ausente natural de Ilha de S. Jorje e de Rosa Maria naturais e fregueses de... [parish church of N.S. de Guadalupe where the groom was baptised...] + Maria do Rosario filha legitima de Francisco Jose [Espinolha?] ja defunto e de sua molher Maria do Rosario [natives and parishioners of the parish of S. Matheus where the bride was baptised...] The record states that Manoel Jose Machado is the son of Antonio Machado, absent/away, a native of Sao Jorge island and Rosa Maria native and parishioner of N.S. de Guadalupe On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 3:05:33 PM UTC-7, Christian Day wrote: > > I had forgotten to put the link but I'm pretty sure it's the same person. > Can you take a peek at this and see how Antonio is described? Maybe it's a > godfather? > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-C-1808-1825/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-C-1808-1825_item1/P74.html > > As for the immigrant, I have actually collected him as well as two of his > siblings. I haven't seen reference to any others yet but I've been looking. > As for marriages, I have my immigrant's marriage and believe the marriage > of one of his brothers happened here in the U.S. though I haven't been able > to find it and the last one I've had difficulty finding much about at all. > However, Manuel Machado is a few back from my immigrant and all of the > others have been carefully pieced together and interconnect through a lot > of cross-referencing. My immigrant Joao definitely comes from Jacintho who > definitely comes from Francisco who very likely comes from Manuel but the > omission of "legitimate" is very telling so I think either he was adopted > or there something in the translation of his birth certificate so I am > going to keep searching for that baptism now that I know where to look. > Since this mysterious Antonio was from San Jorge and and Manuel's mother > Roza Maria is from Guadalupe, I'm going to search Guadalupe next. > > If these people were illiterate, that may explain why things are omitted > and added but until I can translate the doc above, I won't really know what > the context of Antonio is. It could be a godfather he took his name from > but until I locate his baptism, I won't know. > > Of course in another part of the tree, the Pastorinho we were discussing, > he and his wife's father are both pai incognito. Fun! > > On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Something tells me this isn't right. He wouldn't name his father when he >> was a groom, and then when his baby was being baptized, he suddenly said >> his dad was a pai incognito. >> >> New homework assignment for you. No more researching back in time. Go >> back to your immigrant and find all his siblings as well as the siblings' >> marriages. Then go back a generation and collect all the siblings of that >> generation as well as the marriages of those siblings. Make sure you note >> the godparents too. Once you start to get a complete picture of each >> generation, things will start to come into focus. >> >> One more thing...quit following the leaves on that tree on Ancestry. Do >> your own research then compare it at the end. >> >> This list has 1600 people and many are willing to help you "read" the >> records. As you collect siblings though, you will see your "reading" skills >> strengthen and it will become easier. >> Cheri >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
