P.S. I'm doing this only in a genealogy context, only with what we see in
Azorean records.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:19 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's probably going to depend on local custom which varies from the Azores
> to Madeira to the continent. The dictionaries don't take that into account.
>
> Maps produced in America may have larger, colored in dots for larger
> cities and they may go down to small, non-colored in dots meaning a smaller
> town or city, podunk blip, or "census designated place." I'm sure city and
> town vary depending on local custom where you live. Cartographers
> (mapmakers) have a system from big to small.
>
> So from big to small, they are cidade > vila > freguesia > lugar.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Sonia Pacheco <spach...@umassd.edu> wrote:
>
>> Vila is NOT a city
>>
>>
>> Vila is a town
>>
>> Cidade is a city
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that places would go from being aldeias to vilas and
>> sometimes back to aldeias depending on population numbers and available
>> amenities. There are specific amenities that *must* be present in order for
>> a vila to be considered a vila
>>
>>
>> Suburbio is not used in the Azores
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
>> Judy Thompson <judyte...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 5, 2018 10:35:13 AM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What do you call a suburb?
>>
>> Thx Cheri for the clarification.  Judy
>>
>> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> The words vary from the Azores to the continent.
>>
>> In the Azores, a suburb or neighborhood is usually referred to as a
>> "lugar" in the documents.
>>
>> Freguesia is a civil parish, not a church parish. Let's not go there and
>> confuse people, because most North Americans (who are Catholic) think of
>> their parish as the church that they attend. So just call a freguesia a
>> freguesia. It's what used in the documents. They don't say aldeia in the
>> Azores. I haven't seen it in a document, but I've seen it in the online
>> language class (continental Portuguese).  Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Judy Thompson <judy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We all refer to places like Lajes  on Pico in concelho of Lajes as a
>> freguesia but what do we call places like Ribeira do Meio or Rua Nova which
>> are like suburbs or neighborhoods in Lajes or for Ribeira Seca in Calheta
>> on Sao Jorge, what do we call Portal or Entre Grutoes?  Can't find my
>> English/Portuguese dictionary so looked on google translate and found the
>> following possibilities:
>>
>> suburb = suburbio
>> village = aldeia
>> town or city = cidade
>> neighborhood = bairro
>>
>> Also did not realize that freguesia is actually parish.
>>
>> Hoping Portuguese speakers will have an answer.
>>
>> Thx for any clarification.
>>
>> Judy Thompson
>>
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