Both Frias and Faria(s) have separate toponymic origins, being Frias originated from a location in Spain (Leão & Castela) called Frias, and Faria from a portuguese parish located Barcelos (since the 12th century).
Cheri Mello <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, 21/12/2018 à(s) 22:15: > Yay, nice when DNA and the paper trail mesh together! > > On Dec 21, 2018 1:46 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you JR. This Manuel de Frias is also known by the alcunha >> "Sineiro" in some of the records and his wife Antonia also bears an alcunha >> of "Lasquinha". I think it means "a little bit or piece". This "Sineiro", >> the bell ringer, also shows up in some of my other branches. My >> 2g-grandmother was Maria de Jesus Mendonca (Sineiro) and a 1st cousin to >> this Manuel de Frias. She was born in Furnas but her father was from >> Povoacao, Manuel de Sousa Mendonca. She married Joao do Amaral Gago. >> There's no lack of alcunhas in my family branches! >> >> Thanks for the link to that marriage record. You saved me some time as I >> was just about to go looking for it. >> This branch finally connects me to a DNA match I've been talking to for a >> little over a year and a half. >> >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:26 PM JR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The name of these ancestors is Frias, which was corrupted and became >>> Farias. The same has happened to this name in almost every village I have >>> researched where the name exists, circa the period 1800 or after. Both >>> Faria and Frias were altered in this way. They sometimes became Farias and >>> sometimes stayed that way. Back in the time of the mainland Portugal List, >>> someone explained the culprit for the variations is the difficulty in >>> pronouncing the r's in certain names. >>> >>> This same Ferias (just a spelling variant) that Joe cited was married as >>> Manuel de Frias and this line goes all the way back to Povoacao. See below. >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-C-1842-1858/SMG-PV-FURNAS-C-1842-1858_item1/P87.html >>> >>> Manuel de Frias casou com Antonia de Jesus >>> >>> There are large concentrations of Faria and Frias in, Rabo de Peixe, >>> Maia, Furnas, Povoacao, Ribeira Grande, and some in Ponta Garca, Vila >>> Franca, Lagoa and other places. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 6:31:24 PM UTC-5, jemendonca642 wrote: >>>> >>>> Vacation has an accent on the "e" férias. "Ferias" is the way it is >>>> spelled in some of the records. For example: >>>> Left page, top, 4th line down >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1860-1869/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1860-1869_item1/P161.html >>>> >>>> I've also seen it spelled "Frias". >>>> >>>> I think it is a different surname from "Faria" but I'm not 100% sure >>>> either. >>>> >>>> I just want to normalize the spelling of the name in my database. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 5:55 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it's Frias. The Guill book has Frias. He doesn't have Ferias. >>>>> Doesn't that word mean vacation? >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM GENEVA COOK-GERVAIS < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My distant family from Sao Miguel used the spelling De Faria , Faria >>>>>> and Farias. Don't know if that is the same family or not....…. >>>>>> >>>>>> On December 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM Joseph Mendonca <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am discovering ancestors with the surname of Ferias and sometimes I >>>>>> see it spelled Frias. Can anyone tell me what the normalized modern >>>>>> spelling of this name is? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joseph Mendonca >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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