Thank you Ângela, I guess it's not surprising that my DNA is in large part from Iberia. In addition my full mtDNA exact match (gd-0) is of Spanish lineage.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:52 PM Ângela Loura <[email protected]> wrote: > Both Frias and Faria(s) have separate toponymic origins, being Frias > originated from a location in Spain (Leão & Castela) called Frias, and > Faria from a portuguese parish located Barcelos (since the 12th century). > > Cheri Mello <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, 21/12/2018 à(s) > 22:15: > >> Yay, nice when DNA and the paper trail mesh together! >> >> On Dec 21, 2018 1:46 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you JR. This Manuel de Frias is also known by the alcunha >>> "Sineiro" in some of the records and his wife Antonia also bears an alcunha >>> of "Lasquinha". I think it means "a little bit or piece". This "Sineiro", >>> the bell ringer, also shows up in some of my other branches. My >>> 2g-grandmother was Maria de Jesus Mendonca (Sineiro) and a 1st cousin to >>> this Manuel de Frias. She was born in Furnas but her father was from >>> Povoacao, Manuel de Sousa Mendonca. She married Joao do Amaral Gago. >>> There's no lack of alcunhas in my family branches! >>> >>> Thanks for the link to that marriage record. You saved me some time as >>> I was just about to go looking for it. >>> This branch finally connects me to a DNA match I've been talking to for >>> a little over a year and a half. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:26 PM JR <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The name of these ancestors is Frias, which was corrupted and became >>>> Farias. The same has happened to this name in almost every village I have >>>> researched where the name exists, circa the period 1800 or after. Both >>>> Faria and Frias were altered in this way. They sometimes became Farias and >>>> sometimes stayed that way. Back in the time of the mainland Portugal List, >>>> someone explained the culprit for the variations is the difficulty in >>>> pronouncing the r's in certain names. >>>> >>>> This same Ferias (just a spelling variant) that Joe cited was married >>>> as Manuel de Frias and this line goes all the way back to Povoacao. See >>>> below. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-C-1842-1858/SMG-PV-FURNAS-C-1842-1858_item1/P87.html >>>> >>>> Manuel de Frias casou com Antonia de Jesus >>>> >>>> There are large concentrations of Faria and Frias in, Rabo de Peixe, >>>> Maia, Furnas, Povoacao, Ribeira Grande, and some in Ponta Garca, Vila >>>> Franca, Lagoa and other places. >>>> >>>> JR >>>> >>>> On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 6:31:24 PM UTC-5, jemendonca642 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Vacation has an accent on the "e" férias. "Ferias" is the way it is >>>>> spelled in some of the records. For example: >>>>> Left page, top, 4th line down >>>>> >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1860-1869/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1860-1869_item1/P161.html >>>>> >>>>> I've also seen it spelled "Frias". >>>>> >>>>> I think it is a different surname from "Faria" but I'm not 100% sure >>>>> either. >>>>> >>>>> I just want to normalize the spelling of the name in my database. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 5:55 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it's Frias. The Guill book has Frias. He doesn't have Ferias. >>>>>> Doesn't that word mean vacation? >>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM GENEVA COOK-GERVAIS < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My distant family from Sao Miguel used the spelling De Faria , Faria >>>>>>> and Farias. Don't know if that is the same family or not....…. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On December 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM Joseph Mendonca <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am discovering ancestors with the surname of Ferias and sometimes >>>>>>> I see it spelled Frias. Can anyone tell me what the normalized modern >>>>>>> spelling of this name is? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joseph Mendonca >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Joseph Mendonca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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