Okee dokee! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:46 PM Joseph Mendonca <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Cheri, > > I just took a look. It's primarily one block on chr. 18. I know it's a > long shot but this person's connection to Sao Miguel is on one very narrow > line. Her maternal great-grandfather was born in Furnas so I decided to > give it a try. I know it's way back and I may never find it BUT, *I'm > finding a lot of other relatives along the way*. And that will be a > saving grace. So it won't be a complete waste of time if I never find the > connection. > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:02 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Joe, Make sure it's not spanning the centromere (pinched waist) or in a >> SNP poor region. Otherwise it's a false positive and you'll be wasting your >> time :( >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:46 PM Joseph Mendonca <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It certainly is Cheri. FTDNA has us at 66cM's (12 longest block). I'm >>> taking on a very challenging DNA match 22cM's (19 longest block) to find a >>> connection. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:15 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yay, nice when DNA and the paper trail mesh together! >>>> >>>> On Dec 21, 2018 1:46 PM, "Joseph Mendonca" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you JR. This Manuel de Frias is also known by the alcunha >>>>> "Sineiro" in some of the records and his wife Antonia also bears an >>>>> alcunha >>>>> of "Lasquinha". I think it means "a little bit or piece". This >>>>> "Sineiro", >>>>> the bell ringer, also shows up in some of my other branches. My >>>>> 2g-grandmother was Maria de Jesus Mendonca (Sineiro) and a 1st cousin to >>>>> this Manuel de Frias. She was born in Furnas but her father was from >>>>> Povoacao, Manuel de Sousa Mendonca. She married Joao do Amaral Gago. >>>>> There's no lack of alcunhas in my family branches! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the link to that marriage record. You saved me some time >>>>> as I was just about to go looking for it. >>>>> This branch finally connects me to a DNA match I've been talking to >>>>> for a little over a year and a half. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:26 PM JR <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The name of these ancestors is Frias, which was corrupted and became >>>>>> Farias. The same has happened to this name in almost every village I have >>>>>> researched where the name exists, circa the period 1800 or after. Both >>>>>> Faria and Frias were altered in this way. They sometimes became Farias >>>>>> and >>>>>> sometimes stayed that way. Back in the time of the mainland Portugal >>>>>> List, >>>>>> someone explained the culprit for the variations is the difficulty in >>>>>> pronouncing the r's in certain names. >>>>>> >>>>>> This same Ferias (just a spelling variant) that Joe cited was married >>>>>> as Manuel de Frias and this line goes all the way back to Povoacao. See >>>>>> below. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-C-1842-1858/SMG-PV-FURNAS-C-1842-1858_item1/P87.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Manuel de Frias casou com Antonia de Jesus >>>>>> >>>>>> There are large concentrations of Faria and Frias in, Rabo de Peixe, >>>>>> Maia, Furnas, Povoacao, Ribeira Grande, and some in Ponta Garca, Vila >>>>>> Franca, Lagoa and other places. >>>>>> >>>>>> JR >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 6:31:24 PM UTC-5, jemendonca642 >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vacation has an accent on the "e" férias. "Ferias" is the way it >>>>>>> is spelled in some of the records. For example: >>>>>>> Left page, top, 4th line down >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1860-1869/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1860-1869_item1/P161.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've also seen it spelled "Frias". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it is a different surname from "Faria" but I'm not 100% sure >>>>>>> either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just want to normalize the spelling of the name in my database. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 5:55 PM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it's Frias. The Guill book has Frias. He doesn't have >>>>>>>> Ferias. Doesn't that word mean vacation? >>>>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM GENEVA COOK-GERVAIS < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My distant family from Sao Miguel used the spelling De Faria , >>>>>>>>> Faria and Farias. Don't know if that is the same family or not....…. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On December 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM Joseph Mendonca < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am discovering ancestors with the surname of Ferias and >>>>>>>>> sometimes I see it spelled Frias. Can anyone tell me what the >>>>>>>>> normalized >>>>>>>>> modern spelling of this name is? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joseph Mendonca >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joseph Mendonca >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > -- > Joseph Mendonca > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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