Thanks once again Bill! The family does appear to match. Some in the FamilySearch line have CCA references, which is great (for when CCA is back up). The earliest Conde entry is Antonio Vaz do Conde Sodre with the following book reference:Memoria estatistica e historica da Ilha Graciosa
| | | | | | | | | | | Memoria estatistica e historica da Ilha Graciosa | | | When I download the pdf and conduct a search for "Conde", I found this section (I've cleaned up from the OCR):A igreja Matriz de S. Matheus da villa da Praia, foi, no seu principio, pequena ermida sufraganea á de Santa Cruz Foi elevada a Matriz no anno de 1546, depois de ter sido creada a villa. É pena porem que tendo melhor symetria no seu interior, que a de Santa Cruz, se ache colocada de esguêlha ao lado d'um pequeno largo, a que chamam praça. Está hoje n'um grâo de decencia e aceio, que muito honra as administrações, que d’isso cuidaram. Tem varias capellas lateraes, e um soffrivel orgão e corêto. Tem sujeitas as ermidas: dos Remedios, fundada por Matheus Velho d'Azevedo; a de N. S. da Guia pelo capitão Antonio Vaz do Conde Sodré; a de Santo Antonio, dentro da villa; a de Sant' Anna na povoação da Lagôa, fundada pela capitão mór Sebastião Correa da Silva; a de Santa Quiteria, na Fonte do Mato, pelo' padre Sebastião d'Eiró do Conde, que é a igreja d'um curato sufraganeo pago pelo Estado. Translation (utilizing Google Translate):The Matriz Church of S. Matheus of the town of Praia was, in its beginning, a small hermitage of Santa Cruz. It was elevated to the Matriz in the year 1546, after the villa was created. It is a shame, however, that having a better symmetry in its interior than that of Santa Cruz, is found lying in the side of a small square, which they call a square. It is today a grain of decency and acceptance, which honors the administrations, who took care of it. It has several lateral capellas, and a soffrivel organ and corêto. It is subject to the hermits: dos Remedios, founded by Matheus Velho d'Azevedo; that of N. S. da Guia by Captain Antonio Vaz do Conde Sodré; the one of Santo Antonio, inside the town; the one of Sant 'Anna in the town of Lagôa, founded by the captain mór Sebastião Correa da Silva; the one of Santa Quiteria, in Fonte do Mato, by the priest Sebastião d'Eiró do Conde, that is the church of a curator sufraganeo paid by the State. ***** Some clues that Captain Antonio Vaz do Conde Sodre is perhaps the first Conde on Graciosa. Thanks again for your help! Bill On Sunday, March 17, 2019, 2:38:46 AM PDT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: I noticed a Pedro Conde de Sodré in a family tree on familysearch.org whose wife was Catharina Antunes de Miranda. It says that he was born Abt. 1605 and she Abt. 1610 and that they married Abt. 1630. That would be 98 years before the marriage you posted. Since CCA is down I couldn't try to determine the veracity of the familysearch.org information, but I thought it might interest you so I'm passing it along.https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LYK7-WZD Bill Seidler On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 11:35:39 PM UTC-7, want2beunique wrote: Thank you Bill! This helps tremendously. This may not be THE Pedro I need, but I've captured his information for later incorporation in my tree. I looked at the last part with "critatura" and came up with the same. Strange way to refer to a baby. Thanks again! Bill On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 5:22:29 PM PDT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: I think Pedro's wife is D. Barbara de Mello. Specifically what I see is ...e D. Agada--DIGO--D. Barbara de Mello. (He initially wrote Agada, then corrected himself to Barbara) You translated the date of birth: 10 Sep 1728. It later says he was baptized in this parish of NS da Guadalupe on day 18 of the same month and year. Padrinhos: Manuel Fernandes Balieiro, married with D. Antonia ? de Jesus, parishioners of Matriz da Santa Cruz; and Agada Novaes?, daughter of Alferes Antonio ? Picanço?, resident of parish of Apostolo São Mattheus. Witnesses were the same Alfares Antonio Pereira Picanço (I can read it better her) and Manuel de Conde, brother of the father of this criatura??(I'm sure this a word that references the baby, but I am reluctant to translate it as creature) Bill Seidler On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Debbie, The records are the spelling rules before 1911. The translators use the modern spellings. So that is why you see the discrepancies. The number one: um, hum, and hu (with the tilde over the u) is one that confuses the translator. Many others exist too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 1:33 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <[email protected]> wrote: Hi,I find it helpful to just type your partial translation into google translate: Manoel son of Pedro do Conde Sodre and of [Agada Mejeo?] Of Dona Barbara de Mello Parochiano of [?] Living on the Victory Road on the 10th of September, one thousand seven hundred and twenty eight, and [foy?] Parochial of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the [...] month and year in ... Simple, but helpful most of the time. It has me looking harder for the spelling of what you are unsure of because it doesn’t recognize those either. Debbie On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: Hello! I have a partial translation for this baptism (bottom right) http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA- SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA- SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_ item1/P154.html Partial translation:Manoel filho de Pedro do Conde Sodre e de [Agada Mejeo?] de Dona Barbara de Mello Parochiano de [?] moradora no Caminho da Victoria nos ao em os dez de Setembro de mil sete centos vinte oito, e [foy?] Parochial de Nossa Senora de Guadalupe em os [?] de mes e anno em ... The wife's name should be (according to other sources) Catarina Antunes de Miranda. What is the name of Pedro's spouse and what are the words before her name? Also, I couldn't determine Manoel's birth date. I'm starting to explore earlier records hoping to find a connection from the Azores to the mainland. We are planning a trip to Portugal in the Summer and I would really love to find where either the Conde line or the da Silva de Vasconcellos originated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! 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