« Um segundo nome de devoção podemos considerá-lo como apelido se este provinha das gerações anteriores e/ou foi repetidamente usado na mesma família em gerações seguintes. Porém, estes segundos nomes próprios de devoção muitas vezes não constituíam apelidos e, *sobretudo no caso das mulheres, até eram dos que mais vezes se abandonavam ou trocavam, ao longo da vida. Daí uma hipotética Maria, filha de Miguel Lobo e de Ana do Rosário, poder surgir no seu casamento como Maria do Sacramento e sem qualquer apelido; no seu óbito como Maria Loba; e no baptismo de um neto - quando ela já era falecida - como Maria do Rosário.* Caso haja lacunas documentais, estas alterações fazem mesmo duvidar que estejamos perante o mesmo indivíduo.» - QUEIROZ, Francisco, MOSCATEL, Cristina, «DESCUBRA AS SUAS ORIGENS - Manual de Genealogia e História da Família», 2016, Esfera dos Livros, página 207.
This book has been my Genealogy Bible for the last 3 years, and a true life saver when it comes to overcome brickwalls in my researches. Ângela Loura <[email protected]> escreveu no dia quarta, 20/03/2019 à(s) 14:36: > I don't think the main name of the person (female) changes. The only > changes I found so far is in the religious name (usually the second name > added to the main name). For example, Maria das Dores turning into Maria da > Assunção. I don't know why they would change it, but since it usually > didn't even appear in the baptism record (only Maria), maybe there's > (option 1:) no real meaning/importance given to the name - the worst > religious names I've seen so far are the ones given to expostos without a > previous name -, or (option 2:) there was a more complex importance we > still haven't figured out. > I will check the "Descubra as suas origens" manual when I get home to see > if the authors refer anything about this. > > A quarta, 20 de mar de 2019, 14:26, nancy jean baptiste < > [email protected]> escreveu: > >> Hi all, >> >> In some ways the same names is helpful to link to families. The Sao Jorge >> index makes it so easy to skim for "Silveira de Lemos" or variation thereof >> and "de Jesus" women or in my mom's line "Bernarda"......but, in other >> cases it's horribly confusing....ie: my great grand father from Candelaria >> took the surname Cardoso while his brother took Silva.......why? Who know's? >> >> Enjoy the puzzle! >> Nancy Jean >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of >> Leonor Bertoni <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:00 PM >> *To:* Azores Genealogy >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria) >> >> Sam, what I have been finding a lot of is sons taking on their father's >> first name as their last name. For example Nicolau do Rego's son will be >> João do Rego Nicolau. >> >> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 21:58, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Rick. I get it now. All these same names are driving me nutso. >> Add to that the marrying of cousins and it sure does get crazy! >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 19, 2019 5:32 PM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria) >> >> >> >> *Not exactly. If the Bride was Maria and the MIL was Francisca Rosa. The >> bride might take the name Maria Rosa or Maria Francisca. I cannot recall if >> I have seen the bride change her baptismal name. * >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2019 6:32 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria) >> >> >> >> Rick; Do you mean that a bride of one name say, Ana Francisca would >> marry and change her name to her mother-in-laws say Jacintha Maria? Talk >> about making our job of tracing our ancestors harder! Not to mention, talk >> about a “kiss up”! LOL! >> >> >> >> Mary, Yes, it sure does make it harder to know what is what. I’m trying >> to fill in the different branches of my tree and didn’t really count on >> tracking down all the marriages and obits, etc. Was hoping to do it just >> through births/baptisms. Oh well, I never really expected to finish my >> tree! >> >> >> >> Thanks guys, >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:04 PM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria) >> >> >> >> *Sam, Yes I have noticed that. I kind of think the bride sometimes took >> her mother in law’s name as a means to be accepted into the family better. * >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Epping, NH* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:46 PM >> *To:* genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria) >> >> >> >> Hello all; Has anyone else noticed how very, very often the names of the >> bride and or of the mother’s in law are exactly the same? i.e. Bernardina >> Jacintha, Anna Filomena, etc. Record after record, though not all of them >> of course, have the bride and her mother with exactly the same name and >> sometimes all three women in the record have the same name. It just makes >> me worry that the priest has been “tippling” the vino… I know certain >> names were very common but; it seems to be more than that…. >> >> >> >> Just wondering… >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: >> https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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