Hi Steve S, Are you sure about that? I can't find a Manuel Souza coming into Boston on 2 Dec 1887 on the Sarah from Flores. But I found a Manuel Souza coming into Boston on 2 Dec 1887 on the Sarah from FAIAL. It's getting to be confusing. First you said it was Sao Miguel island, then Flores island, but I find Faial island. What documents do you have that say Sao Miguel? What documents say Flores? Depending on your answers to those questions will point to the right solution. Otherwise, it's a wild goose chase.
You did a Y-DNA test with which company? Family Tree DNA or Ancestry? They are 2 different companies. Ancestry did Y-DNA testing years ago, but they didn't test 64 markers. FTDNA has a Y-DNA 67 test, if that is what you mean. If you did it with Ancestry, you can transfer their Y-DNA 33 or Y-DNA 46 over to FTDNA (if you downloaded the raw data file). You won't get 33 or 46 markers though, as they aren't all compatible. You can make them compatible by providing a swab and paying a fee: [image: image.png] If you did a Y-DNA test with FTDNA, you can join the Azores DNA Project. You didn't directly say that your Stephens is a corruption of Souza though. I'm guessing by your signature. And if you did test with FTDNA, you need to add the Family Finder test. It's another tool to use. Y-DNA testing is a direct line test - your father's father's father's line only. Family Finder (autosomal DNA testing) covers all your lines going back about 200 years from your birth. You'd have to tease them apart. If you did an Ancestry DNA test (like the ones you see on TV), you did an autosomal DNA test and these transfer over to FTDNA. You get matches for free. The tools and ethnicity estimates are $19. Set me straight on your island and hopefully I can point you in the right direction. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 3:00 PM Steve Stevens <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the information you provided. I have some other information, > but is does not match up to San Miguel. It saya Terceira. > > I did the 64 Y-DNA test years ago and Ancestry chose not to use these with > their new DNA test. I can provide the results if it would help, but it > looks like I can not join the DNA group without a new test. I believe I > have his entry into Boston, from Flores on the bark Sarah 2 dec 1887 > > Regards, > > Steve Stevens > > > On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 11:38:54 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Hi Steve S, >> >> Sousa is the modern Portuguese spelling. Before 1911 you will see Souza. >> At least in the Portuguese records. The set of records you'll be dealing >> with won't be the Civil Registers but the Church records. >> >> Yes, Souza/Sousa and Silva are 2 of the most common names. Records over >> there are organized on the village level. You have to know the village, >> especially when you are dealing with Sao Miguel island. That island alone >> holds half the population of the Azores and has approximately 70 churches >> to look through. It's a needle in a haystack. >> >> You have the immigration date. Unfortunately, the emigration leaving the >> port of Ponta Delgada on the island of Sao Miguel has some gaps in the >> records. That 1885-1886 is one gap. The records are simply missing. >> >> If none of your research has turned up a village (called a freguesia) on >> your Manuel, you'll have to research his sisters and find their immigration >> and naturalizations. And you'll most likely have to use DNA. Your matches >> might point towards a particular region on Sao Miguel. Or maybe you'll find >> a cousin. If your parent(s) are alive test them first. If they are not >> alive, test their sibling(s). If they are not alive, then you are the best >> candidate for the DNA test. Order through the Azores DNA Project on Family >> Tree DNA. Use this link: >> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands >> You want the Family Finder which is on sale for $49 (+$12.95 S&H - >> includes return postage if you still reside in the U.S.). The sale ends >> tonight (Jan. 2) at 11:59 pm PST. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:23 AM Steve Stevens <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello all! >>> >>> I just found this group while digging for Azores civil records or >>> information. My great-grandfather Manuel/Manoel de Sousa/Souza was born >>> about 28 February 1868 in ST. Michael/Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal and >>> immigrated to the US about 16 April 1885/86 at Boston, MA. He was >>> naturalized 5 Nov 1897. According to marriage records, his parents were >>> John Soza and Mary Silva. Knowing that these names are like Smith and Jones >>> in the US, I was hoping for some help locating Portuguese records for the >>> family. He had three sisters, Mary (abt1871-1933), Marion Augusta (abt >>> 1875-1943) and Gertrude Alice (???-aft 1943). >>> >>> Any help would be most appreciated. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Steve Stevens (Souza) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/01aba5af-ace1-446e-b253-ccf5c66bc1ee%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/01aba5af-ace1-446e-b253-ccf5c66bc1ee%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5ea0d2cf-f18f-4b04-8e34-2149ebc4e6b1%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5ea0d2cf-f18f-4b04-8e34-2149ebc4e6b1%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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