Hi Debbie,

You're very welcome :)

I'll keep my fingers crossed for your search today! 

best of luck,

Linda

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 9:34:13 AM UTC-8, Jesse Mendonca wrote:
>
> Linda,
>
> This is so helpful for all of us.    Thank you for the explanation and the 
> examples.     I am going to try the João Joaquim Mendonca passports to 
> Brazil today, with your helpful advice.  Wish me luck!
>
> Debbie Shepherd Mendonca
>
> (jessdebmendonca at gmail.com) 
>
> *Researching:*
>
> *1. LUIZ surname— including Luiz de SOUZA, PIMENTEL, Antonio CABRAL, and 
> PEREIRA—on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North Kohala, Hawaii, 
> Hawaii*
>
>
> *2. Mendonca and Aguiar Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other 
> places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, 
> California*
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:07 PM linda <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I'll help you learn to read the passport records.   The data and 
>> vocabulary are limited; all it just takes is a little practice.
>>
>> ***********
>> Reading the Passport Lists:
>>
>> Headings at the top of the page are
>>
>> Passport Number;    Date (Month, Day);  Name of Bearer;   Destination
>>
>> The  information for each passport holder usually includes name, marital 
>> status, occupation, birth location, and age.  It may also include 
>> additional people traveling with in the care of the main passport holder.  
>> These may be dependent children, elderly parents; minor siblings or wives.
>>
>> The passports seem mostly grouped by departing ship-- groups of passport 
>> holders all going to the same location.  In addition to place names, you 
>> will also see ditto marks such as
>>
>> "
>> or 
>>
>> ~ " ~ 
>>
>> or 
>>
>> "Idem" which is Latin for "the same".   
>>
>> It seems to me that US passengers sometimes state their final 
>> destination, such as California, or sometimes state their port of 
>> disembarkation, such as Boston.  So, I like to check all  the names on any 
>> US destination page, just in case.
>>
>>
>> **********
>>
>> I believe you're looking for an immigrant to the US, so my strategy would 
>> be to first scan the destinations looking for US locations.   
>>
>> Passengers on [web] pages 8, 20, 52, 53, 59, 75, 102, 104 passengers are 
>> all going to Brasil-- mostly Rio de Janeiro.
>>
>> Passengers on [web] page 101 are a mixed lot. They are mostly going to 
>> Brazil; some are going directly, but some are going indirectly via Lisbon; 
>> passport number 259 is going to the US by way of Faial ["Estados Unidos da 
>> America pela ilha da Fayal"].  
>>
>> Let's look at a couple of the entries more closely.  The information 
>> generally follows a standard format.
>>
>> page 101 #266:
>>
>> Manuel de Sousa do Rigo
>> de 43 annos, casado, proprieta-
>> rio, natural de freguesia de S.
>> Sebastiao, d'esta ilha Terceira 
>>
>> Translation:
>>
>> Manuel de Sousa do Rigo
>> 43 years [old], property owner
>> native of the village of S[ao]
>> Sebastiao, of this island of Terceira
>>
>> This Manuel de Sousa is going to Rio de Janeiro [it says "Idem" beneath 
>> "Rio de Janeiro" in the destination column], and he's too old to be your 
>> Manuel.
>>
>>
>> Page 8 #55:
>>  
>> Manoel de Sousa Bor-
>> ges, casado, proprietario, 
>> natural da freguesia das
>> L?????, d'esta ilha, de
>> 71 annos.
>>
>> Manoel de Sousa Borges,
>> married, property owner
>> native of the village of 
>> L?????,  of this island,
>> 71 years [old].
>>
>> This Manuel Sousa is going to Rio de Janeiro, and he's 71, so he's not 
>> your Manuel either.
>>
>> You did great in identifying a list of potential Manuel de Sousas, and 
>> you'll be able to go through the pages more quickly by scanning for US 
>> destinations, then narrowing the candidates down to those who are closer in 
>> age to your target Manuel de Sousa.
>>
>> If you post a few more possible candidates, I'll be happy to have a look 
>> at them and help you to narrow the list.
>>
>> best of luck in your research,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 8:51:02 AM UTC-8, Steve Stevens wrote:
>>>
>>> I know I sound screwed up, blame it on the drugs (have bronchitis and 
>>> taking cough syrup with codeine) but the information I have, even coming 
>>> from relatives, is screwed up. First of all my name, my grand parents 
>>> changed their name from Soza to Stevens 27 Feb 1924 believing that my great 
>>> grand father was actually an Estevez vice Soza. I have no idea how they got 
>>> there except a great uncle also mentioned it to a family member before he 
>>> died. So I never had a chance to be "right."
>>>
>>> The DNA test was a y-46 DNA test at Ancestry.com. Dyslexia runs in the 
>>> family. The test results which I have attached show Haplogroup R1b "The 
>>> Artisans" they say. You may use the data if you wish I have no intention 
>>> right now of paying for another subscription, just updated to Ancestry 
>>> World and have found that to be a waste for me.
>>>
>>> Searching the Passport site you provided, I looked through 1884 and 1885 
>>> as this seems to be the most often recorded years for his immigration and 
>>> found some that caught my eye, but need translation if you will:
>>>
>>> p.8 #55
>>> p.20 #181, 182
>>> p.52 #152
>>> p.53 #158
>>> p.59 #223
>>> p.75 #14
>>> p.101 #266
>>> p.102 #273
>>> p.104 #285
>>>
>>> Working my way through the whole book. Too bad someone didn't index 
>>> this. I would if I could read it better.
>>>
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