On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 04:30:05PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote:
> 
> My point however that what you and J.P. describe as "chaff" is
> neccessary for the evolution and development of the web still holds.
> Someone has to pay for all this wonderful "free" content - if you can
> come up with a better globally applicable model for it than
> advertising or paid content then all power to you.

You seem to be confusing two completely orthoganal points here. I haven't
seen anyone (here) say that there shouldn't be paid content or advertising
on the web. People are just complaining about the overuse of Flash on
web sites. A lot of the annoying Flash that I see has nothing to do with
advertising.

> Yes, granted, there's a lot of irritating stuff being produced in Flash and 
> other advertising media - but there's been an awful lot of rubbish produced 
> in the name of "content" too, both in print and on the web. But no-one would 
> wish to ban the written word. The delivery method is not the culprit, the 
> lack of creativity is.

Sure. But the difference is that I can skim-read some plain HTML and
decide that it's crap in a lot less time than it takes to download and
watch a crap Flash animation.

It wastes a lot less of my time.

> Would you throw your TV set away simply because you didn't enjoy some
> of the programmes?

No, but I might avoid channels that constantly used advertising
techniques that annoyed me (like DOGs or constant crazy frog adverts).

> I thought people like you had gone off to smash mill machinery in
> about 1812.

No. We've spent the last ten years building the world wide web for
people like you to crap all over :)

Dave...

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  Let me see you make decisions / Without your television

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