2008/5/14 Gareth Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Agreed about the quality. Since the service is not officially sanctioned > they are going to have to do the encoding 'off-air'. And a 3-4Mbps MPEG2 > feed is not a good starting point for doing further compression from. >
If it were the MPEG2 feed and was digitally processed, it would be quite simple to use the encoded frames and reduced the resolution and/or bitrate. At least in theory. It looks like a MPEG2->analogue->re-encode. > > While I don't know what the channel formally known as News 24 does with > their video streams, we encode our live video for BBC Arabic directly from a > 270Mbps SDI feed of the network output. > Does that mean a BBC News HD channel would be possible? -- > *Gareth Davis* | Production Systems Specialist > World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global > News Division > 8 http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ + 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B > 4PH > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Richard Compston > *Sent:* 13 May 2008 19:05 > > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels > > Moving away from the legal wrangles for a moment, I must say I'm not too > impressed with the quality of their streams... > Looking at my PC's network usage zattoo is using three times as much > bandwith (admittedly some will be upstream) than the FLV stream of News 24 > (sorry, News Channel) we're running tests on currently (beta stream coming > to news.bbc.co.uk soonish), but actually looks worse - lots of blocking & > buffering. > My PC is rather old, but the connection's not too bad - getting around > 5Mbps currently. > > Rich. > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > The relevant part of the Copyrights and Patents Act 1988 (as Amended) is > > here: > > > > http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-(statutes)(1)/part-1-copyright-.asp#s73<http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-%28statutes%29%281%29/part-1-copyright-.asp#s73> > > > > It all boils down to the definition of 'cable' and 're-transmission by > > cable'. Interestingly the Act does not say 're-broadcast' by cable, it > > doesn't say it has to be in a partciular format (DVB-S or analogue PAL, for > > example) and does not state that it has to be a 'broadcast' (many to one) > > just a 're-tranmission'. > > > > It also says that 'ee-transmission by cable include the transmission of > > microwave energy between terrestrial fixed points' which seems to cover > > wireless internet in my book... > > > > 2008/5/13 Robin Cramp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > From a user perspective viewing content in this way is great, it > > > provides another source of viewing; more importantly online. I would think > > > from a broadcaster perspective there is a sense of split view on the > > > subject. Broadcasting the stations as is gives them an extra level of > > > exposure, not to mention the advertisers too. Although from a content > > > owner > > > perspective there is the age old issues about copyright. I personally > > > think > > > that it will be the rights owners that will have the biggest say in > > > whether > > > Zattoo should continue in their current model, rather than the > > > broadcasters > > > pushing for change. > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35 > > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels > > > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian Butterworth > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://zattoo.com/ > > > > > > > > http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/ > > > > > > > > "Zattoo, which is now offering live online streams of the leading > > > British > > > > terrestrial television channels, is claiming it has the right to do > > > so under > > > > the United Kingdom Copyright Act. Zattoo says it "operates strictly > > > > legitimately on the basis of agreements with broadcasters and the > > > copyright > > > > law" but the British broadcasters say they have no agreements with > > > the > > > > streaming startup company. The law seems ambiguous at best." > > > > > > > > > Interesting stuff. I can see how retransmission is a good thing but > > > only through the right channels - i.e. if I were to provide content to > > > the BBC or ITV, I would like it to be transmitted professionally and > > > with a good level of quality. > > > > > > Any views on this? > > > - > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > > > please visit > > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > > Unofficial list archive: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > > > > > - > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > > > please visit > > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > > Unofficial list archive: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please email me back if you need any more help. > > > > Brian Butterworth > > > > http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover > > advice, since 2002 > > > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
