On Friday 29 September 2006 14:39, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
> >> Centos is _very_ stable. RHEL can be licensed quite cheaply if you don't
> >> buy the support package (about US$10/machine)
> >
> > The last time I looked (some time ago), it was over $200/machine.  That is 
too
> > much for me.  For a company or someone serious about servers, that's OK 
and
> > quite far given their security updates.
> 
> Redhat offer some discounts for developers, etc.

That is interesting.

> 
> As a Bacula feature request is now in their system and has been requested 
> by at least 25 different customers, they may well be interested in giving 
> you a free license for development purposes.

Hmmm. That is even more interesting.

I actually have RHEL and access to their network, but that is because I 
administer a machine, where the organization (MercyShips) has a global RedHat 
license.  That said, other than having the CDs for recovery purposes, which 
unfortunately I needed recently, I cannot load them on my machines.

> 
> 
> I don't disagree with your assessment of installations - I use suse at 
> home, but I have serious issues with their level of professionalism in the 
> commercially supported products.

Well, distros are a bit of a religious thing and very personal.  I look for 
leading edge software, good update/security service, and stability.  RedHat 
is excellent for that, but now that they are commercial, too expensive. 
Fedora as you say and as I experienced is too "bleeding edge".  I asked them 
to use a 9 month release cycle, and they sent me a very kind reply giving 
their reasons for a 6 month cycle.  I then looked at a lot of distros: 
debian, kubantu, ubantu, madrivia, ...  However, most of them wouldn't even 
install on a leading edge Dell (debian, ubantu), others (kubantu) are for 
users that don't know Unix or the distro is a one man show without a 
significant organization, or rely on other distros for security patches, ... 

For me, for the moment, with the exception of this SCSI bug, SuSE has been 
great (as I say, for me).  One good thing from the time I wasted on this 
"bug" is that I learned that within certain restrictions (SeLinux, 
AppArmor, ...), unlike rpms, I can mix and match kernels from different 
distros as I want.

> 
> (Having said that, RHEL installation is also very straoghtforward)

Yes, but if *anything* goes wrong, it simply dies.  SuSE has a vga exception 
handler that takes over (sort of like a rescue disk) that allows you in many 
cases to get out of trouble -- e.g. switch where the source CDs are coming 
from, ....  really quite cool.

> 
> AB
> 

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