The Baha'i Studies Listserv It's interesting that even in hindsight you are not willing to condemn Uthman and Mu`awiyah for their actions. Oh well. Whatever.
Best regards, Iskandar Sacred cows make the best hamburgers On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Gilberto Simpson < [email protected]> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I think you are confused. It sounds like you are saying that after > Uthman was killed he gave an illegal order to kill his own > murderers?!? > > Otherwise, I would point out that Uthman was murdered while he was at > home reading the Quran. It wasn't like he was out on the battlefield. > In no way is this the kind of killing that would normally be > considered "self-defense". > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Susan Maneck <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > >> I think that if you take the Bahai relativistic approach to morality, > >> what Muawaiyya sought *was* justice because he had a right to it by > >> the Quran. As Uthman's kin he had the the option of forgiving the > >> murderers but refused to give it. But even without invoking > >> relativism, even today it is generally unjust to let murderers go off > >> scott free. > > > > Except in this case Uthman had unjustly given orders for these > > soldiers to be executed. It was therefore self-defense. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-534958-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
