The Baha'i Studies Listserv This is ridiculous On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Susan Maneck <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > `Abdu'l-Baha's comments in SAQ are for apologetic purposes, Susan. For a > > Christian audience. > > So you don't believe He was telling the truth? > He was telling the truth as He knew it. It was His information at the time. Are you saying that Muhammad did not order a series of raids on civilian caravans? Some half a dozen raids or so? They never happened? > > And since when is `Abdu'l-Baha an infallible source in > > matters of history, especially ancient history? Or, are you saying that > the > > best defense is a good offense, Susan? > > I'm saying that if Muslims had not been persecuted none of those raids > would have been necessary. > They were still offensive in nature. Remember, we are not talking about the major battles. We are talking about a series of raids, on trading caravans. Why lie in ambush and attack a caravan of traders? Why not openly declare a war? Baha'u'llah was born and was raised in a Muslim society and He and His followers were heavily persecuted too. Why didn't He order any raids? > > > Why on earth was Baha'u'llah so perturbed as a child about such violence? > > However, perturbed Baha'u'llah was He still stated it was Divine > Justice. Or do you think He was engaging in apologetics as well? > Baha'u'llah doesn't say it was Divine Justice. He says He felt that Muhammad had to do it. Even if it was Divine Justice, it was for that particular time and place. What Muslims are doing is saying that Islam and the sunnah of Muhammad (i.e. what he did, and his raids and battles and warfare and jihad, etc.) is eternal and forever. BS. Nonsense. > > > Why did He abolish it if there never ever was any bloodshed and violence > in > > Islam? > > Not the issue, and you know it. > That definitely is the issue. If there was no violence in Islam, there would have been no need for Him to abrogate and abolish it. Best regards, Iskandar > > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549233-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
