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The facts are the facts and they are unfortunate and inconvenient. But they are 
not lies. 

I am a man from Mars. Argue your points from a rational point of view, not 
because `Abdu'l-Baha said something in defense of Islam to a Christian 
audience. 


What is relevant on a Baha'i studies list is Baha'i studies not Gilberto's 
constant and unwanted barrage about the finality of his religion or its 
virtues, etc. He does not belong here and he refuses to leave. 

No, I was not condemning Islam. I am just stating the facts such as jihad and 
the facts that were in that video. Or permission to beat your wife. These are 
facts. In my view, they mean that the time of Islamic.  Dispensation has 
passed. It's not a condemnation.


I don't appreciate being lectured at regarding what a moral code of conduct for 
a Baha'i should be. I'd like to be given the latitude of making my own judgment 
based on my own understanding. 


Best regards and good night, 
Iskandar 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Maneck <[email protected]>
Sender: <[email protected]>Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:38:38 
To: Baha'i Studies<[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Stealth Jihad

The Baha'i Studies Listserv
>> I am just stating the facts. You draw your own conclusions.

Your posting material irrelevant to the list purpose with the agenda
of denigrating Islam.

So, the raids
>> were ordered by Muhammad himself. Right? The Baha'i concept of Manifestation
>> of God is irrelevant here.
>
> It should be relevant on a Bahai list.

Gilberto is quite right here.

>> Or, maybe I am a Baha'i that is quite selective
>> in his beliefs just like you who are so conveniently selective in your
>> beliefs and sources, etc. None of your business.
>
> If you want to keep your religious beliefs secret you've picked a
> funny way to show it.

Indeed. This list is hardly private. We know there are people here
pretending to be Baha'is who are in fact likely agents of those forces
which are persecuting Baha'is in Iran. Do we really need to give them
this sort of ammunition because you have a bone to pick with Gilberto?

> Last has nothing to do with it. The issue is that if you have your own
> moral code which you use to condemn the actions of Muhammad then you
> aren't really following the Bahai writings.
>

Exactly.

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