The Baha'i Studies Listserv People worry too much about what other people are doing or not doing. Christ said to remove the mote from your own eye before attempting to remove it from your brother's. He also stated that he who is without sin can cast the first stone and that judgement is reserved unto the Father (God). Consequently, the only people we can truly speculate about and still be ok with our Creator, is ourselves. We are admonished to call ourselves to account daily. No where in any of the Holy Books are we told to call others to account. It is not ours to require. Only God can judge the heart of any one.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Gary Selchert <[email protected]> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > Back before I was married, I went through a phase where it seemed like > every woman I dated had recently been involved with another woman, yet > still had ample attraction for men. Often they would compliment me on being > quiet and gentle. Some later got married to men. At least one quickly > returned to the company of women. In either case, it left me with the > personal impression that for at least some people the zones are > considerably more a matter of shades of gray than black or white. I learned > later about the Kinsey sexuality preference rating scale (0-6 where 0 is > completely hetero; 7 is completely same-sex; and 1-5 denote increasing > levels of same-sex attraction with 3 being equally attracted both ways. > That meshed well with the stories I heard from my personal connections. > **** ** > In other words, a 4 and a 6 may both refer to themselves as gay, and both > may find Jesus (or both may find Baha’u’llah) but if they both try to live > a hetero life because of new-found commitments, I suspect the 4 will have a > much easier transition than 6. The 4 (or even a 2 or a 3!) may well go on > the lecture circuit proclaiming how Jesus (or the Baha’i Faith) has cured > them of homosexuality because they are able to live like a 1. I suspect it > is far less likely that the 6 will experience this triumphant success. I > suspect the 5’s and 6’s are the people who recount anguish, shame and > heartbreak when they attempt to change their lives in conformity to new > commitments. > ** ** > This is my humble, anecdotal and conjectural opinion. It is hard to > imagine that anyone would ever attempt to use it as an actual research > hypothesis however. > > Peace, > Gary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Maneck <[email protected]> > To: Baha'i Studies <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Nov 8, 2011 11:55 am > Subject: Re: Overcoming homosexuality > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > The only people I know who have changed their orientation are Christian. > > I do know one Baha'i who considered herself as a lesbian years ago and > is now happily married (last I heard.) She used to be on this list. > I'll leave it to her if she wants to identify herself. > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]?> > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-619009-1275591.ef24b475e5f10a74e6628cf12d307...@list.jccc.edu > <leave-619009-1275591.ef24b475e5f10a74e6628cf12d307...@list.jccc.edu?> > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]?> > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-619066-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
