James and Barbara Hedley wrote: > > Study of the intellectual acuity of the Lievegoods and Kolisko's of this > world this does not help us to become "conscious participants" and "living > in our environment".
And why not? > I submit that the insights dowsers acquire from active participation in > trying to understand the phenomenal world are as relevant, if not more > relevant, as those acquired from reading about someone else's insights. Submitment noted, however is dowsing really active participation or passive response? Certainly reading will get you no where, as so many of our BD ideologs are a testament, but using Koliskos, Peliken or Lievegeods insights as a basis for active observation is a very worthwhile activity, or so it has seemed to me. > > Your statement saying that I may as well have said, "How can any body use > Biodynamics without dowsing skills is beyond my comphrehension" is a point > worthy of discussion. Are you saying that dowsing has no part in > understanding what our BD preps are doing, or as a comparative guide to what > they are likely to do. Naturally 'use' and 'outcome' depends on the user and so absolutes are difficult here. However there is whole lot of difference between actively participating in a process of cognition through interaction with the environment in many ways, than passively asking your unconscious a yes no answer. You may get an answer but you have not had the soul experience of the journey. Do you 'really know' what the astral body is doing or what it feels like personally or in the earth when it manifests as a groundhog, once you have asked your pendulum for a remedy to rid them? Do you know what the possible side effects of this remedy might be on the people, animals and other plants and what these are going to look like? Use and practise develop 'muscles', imagining excercise does not. > As for developing into conscious angels I would rather live in this world > right now and evolve as the rest of mankind develops than to try and be the > first one there. No future in that. We dont have to change the world , just > ourselves.> > I do not believe I said anything about not living in the present. All humankind have the chance to develop towards being conscious angels. The joke of our present time and situation is that this will not be happening in 4000 years as RS suggested, but quiet possibly by 2025. So the process is on right now for those who want it. RS has pointed out that just as there are folks who make evolutionary jumps, there are folks who are left behind as 'laggard beings'. The choice is yours. Pick up the old atavistic clairvoyance or grow a conscious clairvoyance. RS worked towards the latter and encouraged others to do the same. This is why he bothered to outline the workings of the spiritual activities in the Agriculture lectures and not just tell us about the preps and their use. He hoped we would make use this information as a basis for us to develop a conscious relatonship with them. And I believe we easily can from the base he laid. Just as attending an elementary course such as provided by most BDAs is a start on the road of Steiner Ag, so may dowsing be for some. The trap of both is to stop there and believe 'you have got it'. Dowsing may well be enough to turn a 'BD' buck and there is no shame in that. While I disagree with your suggestion one can not use a field broadcaster without dowsing, as I do, I also appreciate it can be beyond your comphrehension. Glen A > James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:26 AM > Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis� short-lived and overpriced? was R e: > Agri-Synthesis� Remedies Tested At UAI > > > James and Barbara Hedley wrote: > > > > > > How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is > beyond my > > > comprehension > > > Sincere regards > > > James. > > > > Through conscious observation and understanding. > > Apart from using the BD preps with a good organic practise, BD and > > Steiners whole thrust for agriculture was for us to be able to > > consciously live in our environment and act as conscious participants > > > > The knowledge and skills for developing this insight are available in > > the works of people such as Lievegeod, Kolisko, Haushcka, Bohenmuhl, > > Pelikan and in my own way I have provided the base from which I work in > > this way. > > RS suggested the development of these skills are a necessary part of our > > present evolution process and if we do not take up this challenge to > > walk across this bridge then all we do is repick up the old ways of > > prehistory rather than develop into conscious angels. > > It is yours and each of our choice. > > The really lucky thing is that it IS possible to be conscious of the > > spiritual forces in nature and to grow plants accordingly. > > This is what the Agriculture course is telling us apart from the obvious > > bits on how to make the preps. > > This is the REAl challenge I see put before us by Biodynamics. > > This is also be one of the HUGE differences between the BD buck turners > > and some other BD practioners. The BDAs seem to have a small > > appreciation of this need and difference however they do not seem to > > have or promote the skills necessary to make conscious spiritual > > perception a every day reality. So they sit on high and isolate quietly. > > cheers > > Glen > > > > > > > > -- > > Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books & Diagrams > > See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda > > > > -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books & Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
