liz davis wrote: Snip Wayne it is not only greed, but understanding where the link
with the land
died, and that seems to stem (with no surprises) from Christianity, and
Judaism.  This thinking also ran parallel with classical thinking of Rome
and Greece. In the thinking that we are superior, the earth is here for
humans, that which we have domain over. Snip

If you also include Islam and draw a map showing they spread of these three
religions over time, you will find a close correlation with desertification

I note they are all strongly patriarchal and wonder if the rise of interest in
matriarchal beliefs that seems to happening, will have some helpful effect on the
land?

Gil

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