Dear Graeme,

I do not know what response is being referred to here. But I think it would
be fine to post it.

Hugh



BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection
www.bdmax.co.nz
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From: "Resonant Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: Brian Keats' article "A Perspective on Radionics &
FieldBroadcasters"


> Below is Brian's article on Radionics published in the Newsleaf.
> Brian has sent it to me to forward to BDNow.  He also included Hugh's
> response, but until we get Hugh's permission I will not post it.  I
> guess Hugh must be still away as he has not contributed to this
> thread yet.
>
>
> A Perspective on Radionics & Field Broadcasters - Brian Keats
>
> In the world of Biodynamics(BD) there is a gathering momentum in the
> use of radionics and Field Broadcaster instruments. What are they,
> how can we understand them, what effects do they have?
>
> The premise that everything is vibration with a wave like nature is
> the basis for research and development into the above mentioned
> instruments.
>
> Definitions, claimed effects and uses
>
> Radionic Potentising Devices:
> Translates substance into a pattern that can be:-
> 1. copied (e.g. a herb or tinctures energy field can be translated
> and placed into a separate medicine phial or pilule);
> 2. projected across near or remote distances;
> 3. have its frequency (potency) changed.
>
> N.B.
> With the aid of dowsing a geometric pattern card can be made, having
> specific circles and vector lines added to it, that can represent any
> substance or thing. This representation can then be used in lieu of a
> herb, metal, mineral, medicine etc.
> The devices do not have an external source of power but do have
> electronic coil based circuitry.
>
> Field Broadcasters
> Usually are built into a section of PVC piping and work on the
> principles of radionics and can broadcast life forces (like BD
> preparations) over large acreage with stationary self-induction
> equipment. Reagents, or their card substitutes, are put into the
> device with a map of the intended area to be broadcast over and the
> pipe is activated for a specific time. There is no battery or mains
> power source needed but they do have electrical components in them
> and a very small voltage would be generated from the device. This
> eliminates the considerable effort needed to stir the preparations
> and spread them out over the land physically. The preparations do not
> even get used up! If one is using reagent cards, then that could
> remove the need to make or buy the preparations, or purchase specific
> minerals and trace elements.
>
> Comments
>
> A lot of energy has gone into explanations, debates and arguments as
> to whether and how radionic devices and Field Broadcasters work. From
> my perspective I think that it is conceivable that they do, or can
> have, some of the effects claimed. The trend is that we are working
> with ever more subtle things that do not appear very substantial but
> nonetheless, the effect of their forces is very far reaching. There
> is not much physically to mobile phones and they continue to get
> smaller and have less and less hardware between them. There is an
> inverse relationship between substance and process - ever less
> substance and ever more powerful process. The computer chip is
> another example. Patterns too are known to have their effects
> psychically and thereby physically. Meditating on a symbol of the
> cross, a circle or on a mandala are examples.
>
> The issues for me rather are:-
> What is working or ensouling or enspiriting this type of technology?
> How is self-deception avoided?
> What is the price to be paid for the ease it offers?
> How do we go forward morally in researching these technologies?
> Should food or medicine radionically produced be labelled differently?
>
> If a radionics device copies a biodynamic preparation onto a Rae Card
> (pattern represented on a card with circles and vector lines) then we
> have something that was 3D; accessible to all the senses;
> metamorphosing; different according to location, season, method of
> making and people who made it - compared to something 2D, with fixed
> form and that provides little access for human physical senses.
>
> I can well imagine that these technological instruments could
> simulate something that represents a preparation filled with life. If
> I compare that which is simulated to the change that takes place when
> we use the technology of the telephone:- human speech is copied and
> transmitted - we recognise the speech patterns and can determine the
> message and who is speaking. The received sound patterns are an image
> of the real thing but not the real thing itself. The information is
> there but not the beautiful subtle quality of the reality. Even the
> sound waves have been changed, many have been dropped off and the
> rest averaged out. This image, like that in a mirror, can be
> seductively like, but not the same, as the real thing.
>
> I have to ask: What does technology do and what is its price?
> One could say that the lever began the journey into technology. The
> lever enables us to do work that we could not do, relying on our
> bodily strength alone. It makes work easier but there is a price paid
> for this gain of ease in every machine. In the levers case we have
> to move the lever a greater distance than the load on the lever
> actually moves. We might lift something 4X heavier but we have to
> move our effort end of the lever 4X farther than the load at the
> other end of the lever actually moves. A small price to pay.
>
> What about a later technology ............. a steam or combustion
> engine? Here air (pneuma / life spirit) is driven away through
> engineered actions and creations done via human beings. A space is
> created in which nothing from the realms of Nature can survive. An
> incredible amount of work gets done with these machines and now the
> effort seems to be cut out too! And the price? This is exacted on the
> environment. Pollution and destruction of forests for example. The
> more our consciousness is directed to the material world for self
> gratification the more we destroy life. To keep it in perspective -
> it is part of human destiny to work with matter! There is also a
> corresponding effect on our soul life. Can we ensoul these machines?
> Nature abhors a vacuum (and a combustion chamber too I am sure!).
> However sub-nature is quite content in the realm of technology. It
> will ensoul such machines and counter forces of life.
>
> The stakes get higher as we start to manipulate the sensory
> organisation of the Earth with satellite technology, World Wide Web
> and mobile phones. So much easier to be a world citizen! What is our
> discount price now? The vibrant, pulsating, breathing of the Earth
> (and human beings) is enmeshed in a tightening cordon of cold, rigid,
> ossifying sense invisible, technical vibrations. This sharp
> latticework is quite convenient for something already ensouled
> through combustion machines to enspirit itself. This spirit is not
> necessarily conducive to the human spirit with its divine origins.
> This powerful force, this conscious spirit could conceivably kill the
> Earth and make this wondrous organism with a consciousness into a
> machine!
>
> Radionic type devices do not have the brute power of some of the
> above technologies. Nonetheless they are technological denaturing
> devices. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think that there
> will be no price to pay. Sure they may be able to broadcast copies of
> substances, thoughts and intentions even. But are they the same as
> the real thing? Can even good intentions be usurped by some
> adversarial power?
>
> A wave, whether it be sound, light, heat, gamma or any other, is a
> medium for energy to be carried - I doubt if it is the energy itself.
> Love, one imagines, is a radiation of a subtly powerful warmth that
> pervades all and could possibly be carried by the light of Sun and
> stars. Love exists before there is even light or any other emitter or
> manifestation of frequencies of wave lengths.
>
> Ever more we are going to be called on to assess effects of ever more
> subtle devices. These devices are appearing at a greater rate than
> people will be able to fully test them. We need to be discerning but
> do not necessarily have the scientific training to research every
> device and present the findings in a way acceptable to the
> main-stream community. Neither can we just wait, stand frozen until
> something is definitely proven before we choose to use or not use
> something. I think our basic criteria for assessment is to compare it
> to the source of life with our refined common-sense that we bare
> innately within us i.e. start developing our gut feelings and
> conscience into full consciousness.
>
> An expression for the source of all life is The Word. To westerners
> It is also know as The Logos or Christ. This Creative Love Power
> is common to all root religions even though It may go under different
> names.
>  From St Johns Gospel we have:-
> In the beginning was the Word
> And the Word was with God
> And the Word was a God.
>
> Many cultures have their cosmogony rooted in sound. What kind of
> sound is the Logos? What kind of frequencies are they that carry the
> powers that create everything that ever was and still continue to do
> so? That fills the universe with life, beautiful form, reasoned
> wisdom and thoroughly permeates it with Love? It is not physical
> sound that can set ones eardrums vibrating but rather the sound
> ether or spirit sound which is also imbued with the life ether. These
> ethers along with warmth and light are born out of the quintessential
> fifth ether.
>
> Can a technology do anything like the Creation Power???????? And
> then:- why do we have the power of speech? Why are Human Beings said
> to be seed of the Logos? What powers are transmitted along the wave
> lengths and frequencies of our speech? Are they changed by what we
> think, feel and do? Do we have the potential to create a life-logy a
> heightened-consciousness-bio-logy rather than a techno-logy? Can we
> become as the Logos?
>
> What about our intent when working with machines? Can we overcome the
> negative forces of technology with good intent? Perhaps. I think we
> have the potential to do so but I also feel that we tend to delude
> ourselves with our current capacities. We might have the idea to use
> a Field Broadcaster to radiate the 500 BD preparation over our
> farm. We put the prep in one of the pipe wells with a map of our farm
> and write down an intent in the name of good powers on a piece of
> paper. The machine is then switched on. The machine might be on for
> hours or even days. Our will power was switched for a few moments
> whilst writing the intent. Does the few moments of conscious willed
> intent match up to the machines relentless radiation???
>
> Technology has its place, to be sure, and future technology has to be
> morally researched for its place to be found. Technology also
> displaces. It tends to separate us from that which makes us human. We
> cannot be human without community, without other humans. As we become
> more technical we have to fight very hard not to become more cold and
> displaced from people. Technology appears to offer an easier solution
> to apply preparations to large acreage and tempts us away from
> finding a healthy, life-to-the-Earth-giving social solution.
>
> Technology per se is not bad or evil. It has a task in our evolution
> to help us meet matter and develop and know ourselves through this
> meeting. However there is a limit to the length of its task, and a
> balance for how much we use it. It can and has sucked us (humanity)
> into materialism and we have to find the strength to rise out of its
> grip whilst we still have a chance to redeem what we have done to the
> Earth through its use.
>
> Labelling and certification. Radionics is used extensively in the
> production of homoeopathic medicines (but not anthroposophic) and has
> been for some time. There is a good chance that biodynamics will head
> the same way. When you purchase homeopathic medicines you have no
> direct way of knowing from the label whether it is produced
> radionically, or from the succussing of a mother tincture in the
> original way. We are in the age of making conscious choices and that
> is what labelling is there for.
>
> I feel that homoeopathic medicines radionically treated should state
> that on the label and so should biodynamic produce. It is also an
> issue whether anything grown without the use of the real preparations
> applied in a direct way should be called or certified biodynamic.
>
> Rainmaking. Like technology, new ideas and cultural practices too
> have their place. A current practice amongst some BD practitioners is
> to use the BD preparations for rain making. This has become
> popularised through the American researcher Hugh Lovel who also makes
> and sells Field Broadcasters. The idea that the BD preparations are
> not just for the below ground and surface effects, but are also for
> proactive workings with the atmosphere, is excellent. We need to
> start directing our thoughts and activities upwards - and not just
> with agricultural practices! I have no doubt that, with the ailing
> Earth and human destiny, we have a task ahead of us to influence
> weather. How we go about it and the consciousness we carry with it,
> can have vastly different effects. A way, is to radionically
> broadcast preparations into the atmosphere with some good intent.
> Another way could be for people to gather together to sing and dance
> and work with the preparations in a fully conscious way out of the
> seed of the Logos they bare. The Human Being is innately audacious
> since the Fall. We dare to think that we can be creative with the
> elements .......... even the weather.
>
> To think and act independently of the will of the gods, if we choose,
> is a gift humanity received. This gift can also be a curse. If we
> become inflated with our ideas, this hubris could lead us towards a
> major self deception. We can endeavour to impose our will on the
> weather or we can endeavour to understand the life of the Earth and
> work co-operatively with the beings (including human) around her.
> How do we bring about that which is good for all beings? is the
> question we need constantly ask of ourselves. Developing that
> spirit-common-sense will help us towards finding the right answers
> that we all have within.
>
> Summary
>
> Biodynamics is all about life. I feel the preparations have been
> arrived at out of a life-logos through the work of Rudolf Steiner.
> The BD preparations do not have much substance but nonetheless they
> can be Life-filled and the effects are profound. We as makers and
> users of these preparations have an exciting, mysterious journey
> ahead. We are nowhere near our potential, and neither is our making
> and use of the preparations.
>
> We are never there in BD. Just as we hope that other people are
> able to stretch themselves to understand the methods and practices of
> biodynamic agriculture, we need to hope for ourselves to be able to
> stretch continually farther in our understanding and practising of
> the profound impulses that lie behind the method. In essence are
> dealing with the transformation of substance in a way that was
> probably not possible before Christ entered into the Earth.
>
> Brian Keats
>
>
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> Graeme Gerrard
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