Dear Graeme, I do not know what response is being referred to here. But I think it would be fine to post it.
Hugh BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Resonant Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:53 PM Subject: Brian Keats' article "A Perspective on Radionics & FieldBroadcasters" > Below is Brian's article on Radionics published in the Newsleaf. > Brian has sent it to me to forward to BDNow. He also included Hugh's > response, but until we get Hugh's permission I will not post it. I > guess Hugh must be still away as he has not contributed to this > thread yet. > > > A Perspective on Radionics & Field Broadcasters - Brian Keats > > In the world of Biodynamics(BD) there is a gathering momentum in the > use of radionics and Field Broadcaster instruments. What are they, > how can we understand them, what effects do they have? > > The premise that everything is vibration with a wave like nature is > the basis for research and development into the above mentioned > instruments. > > Definitions, claimed effects and uses > > Radionic Potentising Devices: > Translates substance into a pattern that can be:- > 1. copied (e.g. a herb or tinctures energy field can be translated > and placed into a separate medicine phial or pilule); > 2. projected across near or remote distances; > 3. have its frequency (potency) changed. > > N.B. > With the aid of dowsing a geometric pattern card can be made, having > specific circles and vector lines added to it, that can represent any > substance or thing. This representation can then be used in lieu of a > herb, metal, mineral, medicine etc. > The devices do not have an external source of power but do have > electronic coil based circuitry. > > Field Broadcasters > Usually are built into a section of PVC piping and work on the > principles of radionics and can broadcast life forces (like BD > preparations) over large acreage with stationary self-induction > equipment. Reagents, or their card substitutes, are put into the > device with a map of the intended area to be broadcast over and the > pipe is activated for a specific time. There is no battery or mains > power source needed but they do have electrical components in them > and a very small voltage would be generated from the device. This > eliminates the considerable effort needed to stir the preparations > and spread them out over the land physically. The preparations do not > even get used up! If one is using reagent cards, then that could > remove the need to make or buy the preparations, or purchase specific > minerals and trace elements. > > Comments > > A lot of energy has gone into explanations, debates and arguments as > to whether and how radionic devices and Field Broadcasters work. From > my perspective I think that it is conceivable that they do, or can > have, some of the effects claimed. The trend is that we are working > with ever more subtle things that do not appear very substantial but > nonetheless, the effect of their forces is very far reaching. There > is not much physically to mobile phones and they continue to get > smaller and have less and less hardware between them. There is an > inverse relationship between substance and process - ever less > substance and ever more powerful process. The computer chip is > another example. Patterns too are known to have their effects > psychically and thereby physically. Meditating on a symbol of the > cross, a circle or on a mandala are examples. > > The issues for me rather are:- > What is working or ensouling or enspiriting this type of technology? > How is self-deception avoided? > What is the price to be paid for the ease it offers? > How do we go forward morally in researching these technologies? > Should food or medicine radionically produced be labelled differently? > > If a radionics device copies a biodynamic preparation onto a Rae Card > (pattern represented on a card with circles and vector lines) then we > have something that was 3D; accessible to all the senses; > metamorphosing; different according to location, season, method of > making and people who made it - compared to something 2D, with fixed > form and that provides little access for human physical senses. > > I can well imagine that these technological instruments could > simulate something that represents a preparation filled with life. If > I compare that which is simulated to the change that takes place when > we use the technology of the telephone:- human speech is copied and > transmitted - we recognise the speech patterns and can determine the > message and who is speaking. The received sound patterns are an image > of the real thing but not the real thing itself. The information is > there but not the beautiful subtle quality of the reality. Even the > sound waves have been changed, many have been dropped off and the > rest averaged out. This image, like that in a mirror, can be > seductively like, but not the same, as the real thing. > > I have to ask: What does technology do and what is its price? > One could say that the lever began the journey into technology. The > lever enables us to do work that we could not do, relying on our > bodily strength alone. It makes work easier but there is a price paid > for this gain of ease in every machine. In the levers case we have > to move the lever a greater distance than the load on the lever > actually moves. We might lift something 4X heavier but we have to > move our effort end of the lever 4X farther than the load at the > other end of the lever actually moves. A small price to pay. > > What about a later technology ............. a steam or combustion > engine? Here air (pneuma / life spirit) is driven away through > engineered actions and creations done via human beings. A space is > created in which nothing from the realms of Nature can survive. An > incredible amount of work gets done with these machines and now the > effort seems to be cut out too! And the price? This is exacted on the > environment. Pollution and destruction of forests for example. The > more our consciousness is directed to the material world for self > gratification the more we destroy life. To keep it in perspective - > it is part of human destiny to work with matter! There is also a > corresponding effect on our soul life. Can we ensoul these machines? > Nature abhors a vacuum (and a combustion chamber too I am sure!). > However sub-nature is quite content in the realm of technology. It > will ensoul such machines and counter forces of life. > > The stakes get higher as we start to manipulate the sensory > organisation of the Earth with satellite technology, World Wide Web > and mobile phones. So much easier to be a world citizen! What is our > discount price now? The vibrant, pulsating, breathing of the Earth > (and human beings) is enmeshed in a tightening cordon of cold, rigid, > ossifying sense invisible, technical vibrations. This sharp > latticework is quite convenient for something already ensouled > through combustion machines to enspirit itself. This spirit is not > necessarily conducive to the human spirit with its divine origins. > This powerful force, this conscious spirit could conceivably kill the > Earth and make this wondrous organism with a consciousness into a > machine! > > Radionic type devices do not have the brute power of some of the > above technologies. Nonetheless they are technological denaturing > devices. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think that there > will be no price to pay. Sure they may be able to broadcast copies of > substances, thoughts and intentions even. But are they the same as > the real thing? Can even good intentions be usurped by some > adversarial power? > > A wave, whether it be sound, light, heat, gamma or any other, is a > medium for energy to be carried - I doubt if it is the energy itself. > Love, one imagines, is a radiation of a subtly powerful warmth that > pervades all and could possibly be carried by the light of Sun and > stars. Love exists before there is even light or any other emitter or > manifestation of frequencies of wave lengths. > > Ever more we are going to be called on to assess effects of ever more > subtle devices. These devices are appearing at a greater rate than > people will be able to fully test them. We need to be discerning but > do not necessarily have the scientific training to research every > device and present the findings in a way acceptable to the > main-stream community. Neither can we just wait, stand frozen until > something is definitely proven before we choose to use or not use > something. I think our basic criteria for assessment is to compare it > to the source of life with our refined common-sense that we bare > innately within us i.e. start developing our gut feelings and > conscience into full consciousness. > > An expression for the source of all life is The Word. To westerners > It is also know as The Logos or Christ. This Creative Love Power > is common to all root religions even though It may go under different > names. > From St Johns Gospel we have:- > In the beginning was the Word > And the Word was with God > And the Word was a God. > > Many cultures have their cosmogony rooted in sound. What kind of > sound is the Logos? What kind of frequencies are they that carry the > powers that create everything that ever was and still continue to do > so? That fills the universe with life, beautiful form, reasoned > wisdom and thoroughly permeates it with Love? It is not physical > sound that can set ones eardrums vibrating but rather the sound > ether or spirit sound which is also imbued with the life ether. These > ethers along with warmth and light are born out of the quintessential > fifth ether. > > Can a technology do anything like the Creation Power???????? And > then:- why do we have the power of speech? Why are Human Beings said > to be seed of the Logos? What powers are transmitted along the wave > lengths and frequencies of our speech? Are they changed by what we > think, feel and do? Do we have the potential to create a life-logy a > heightened-consciousness-bio-logy rather than a techno-logy? Can we > become as the Logos? > > What about our intent when working with machines? Can we overcome the > negative forces of technology with good intent? Perhaps. I think we > have the potential to do so but I also feel that we tend to delude > ourselves with our current capacities. We might have the idea to use > a Field Broadcaster to radiate the 500 BD preparation over our > farm. We put the prep in one of the pipe wells with a map of our farm > and write down an intent in the name of good powers on a piece of > paper. The machine is then switched on. The machine might be on for > hours or even days. Our will power was switched for a few moments > whilst writing the intent. Does the few moments of conscious willed > intent match up to the machines relentless radiation??? > > Technology has its place, to be sure, and future technology has to be > morally researched for its place to be found. Technology also > displaces. It tends to separate us from that which makes us human. We > cannot be human without community, without other humans. As we become > more technical we have to fight very hard not to become more cold and > displaced from people. Technology appears to offer an easier solution > to apply preparations to large acreage and tempts us away from > finding a healthy, life-to-the-Earth-giving social solution. > > Technology per se is not bad or evil. It has a task in our evolution > to help us meet matter and develop and know ourselves through this > meeting. However there is a limit to the length of its task, and a > balance for how much we use it. It can and has sucked us (humanity) > into materialism and we have to find the strength to rise out of its > grip whilst we still have a chance to redeem what we have done to the > Earth through its use. > > Labelling and certification. Radionics is used extensively in the > production of homoeopathic medicines (but not anthroposophic) and has > been for some time. There is a good chance that biodynamics will head > the same way. When you purchase homeopathic medicines you have no > direct way of knowing from the label whether it is produced > radionically, or from the succussing of a mother tincture in the > original way. We are in the age of making conscious choices and that > is what labelling is there for. > > I feel that homoeopathic medicines radionically treated should state > that on the label and so should biodynamic produce. It is also an > issue whether anything grown without the use of the real preparations > applied in a direct way should be called or certified biodynamic. > > Rainmaking. Like technology, new ideas and cultural practices too > have their place. A current practice amongst some BD practitioners is > to use the BD preparations for rain making. This has become > popularised through the American researcher Hugh Lovel who also makes > and sells Field Broadcasters. The idea that the BD preparations are > not just for the below ground and surface effects, but are also for > proactive workings with the atmosphere, is excellent. We need to > start directing our thoughts and activities upwards - and not just > with agricultural practices! I have no doubt that, with the ailing > Earth and human destiny, we have a task ahead of us to influence > weather. How we go about it and the consciousness we carry with it, > can have vastly different effects. A way, is to radionically > broadcast preparations into the atmosphere with some good intent. > Another way could be for people to gather together to sing and dance > and work with the preparations in a fully conscious way out of the > seed of the Logos they bare. The Human Being is innately audacious > since the Fall. We dare to think that we can be creative with the > elements .......... even the weather. > > To think and act independently of the will of the gods, if we choose, > is a gift humanity received. This gift can also be a curse. If we > become inflated with our ideas, this hubris could lead us towards a > major self deception. We can endeavour to impose our will on the > weather or we can endeavour to understand the life of the Earth and > work co-operatively with the beings (including human) around her. > How do we bring about that which is good for all beings? is the > question we need constantly ask of ourselves. Developing that > spirit-common-sense will help us towards finding the right answers > that we all have within. > > Summary > > Biodynamics is all about life. I feel the preparations have been > arrived at out of a life-logos through the work of Rudolf Steiner. > The BD preparations do not have much substance but nonetheless they > can be Life-filled and the effects are profound. We as makers and > users of these preparations have an exciting, mysterious journey > ahead. We are nowhere near our potential, and neither is our making > and use of the preparations. > > We are never there in BD. Just as we hope that other people are > able to stretch themselves to understand the methods and practices of > biodynamic agriculture, we need to hope for ourselves to be able to > stretch continually farther in our understanding and practising of > the profound impulses that lie behind the method. In essence are > dealing with the transformation of substance in a way that was > probably not possible before Christ entered into the Earth. > > Brian Keats > > > -- > Graeme Gerrard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _______________________________________________ > BDNow mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can unsubscribe or change your options at: > http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow _______________________________________________ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow