On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 01:17, Rob Dixon <rob.di...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 19/04/2011 16:00, Peter Scott wrote:
>> If anything is clear from that FAQ it is that the intention is to avoid
>> flames on this list.  Casey and Kevin appear to have stopped monitoring
>> this group some time ago, though.
> I have raised the issue of bullying with the moderators in past years.
> The reaction was that, since Randal had such valuable input, it was
> appropriate to let it drop. I find Randal's ideas interesting, although
> hardly germane or unmissable, but the decision has let through the flood
> of bad manners for so long that it is now entrenched in the life of the
> list. That is a damned shame, and I think the moderators should earn
> their position and make some changes at last.


I doubt my name registers to many here :-) but for a brief period, I
was following this list.  But now, I've basically left for the reasons
both of you are raising.  I haven't heard it called it as "bullying",
but sounds correct.

I thought the list was a good way to get help and then to help others
in return.  But despite the interactive nature, a book seems to be
better since it never shouts at you.  For those of us who first
learned programming from a teacher, I'm glad that when I didn't
initialize my variables, left out comments, or didn't enable a warning
for the compiler, I didn't get shouted at.  If that was how things
started, I'm not so sure I'd still be doing this...

Good to see there are many good people on the list.  But when the
stress gets high, there are probably other ways to help Perl beginners
(web sites like stackoverflow, writing a good blog/web page, or
helping someone physically sitting next to you).  It ain't worth
getting stressed over.  After all, this mailing list is a very small
part of the whole Perl community...thankfully!  :-)

Ray

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