2011/4/25 Jenda Krynicky <je...@krynicky.cz>:
> From: Raymond Wan <r....@aist.go.jp>
>> After reading this, what came to mind is the problem of sexual and
>> power harassment in the workplace, and maybe extending to other types
>> of prejudices but maybe that is a stretch?  Often, the person being
>> accused might start with, "I was just kidding" or "Hey!  Both of us
>> weren't taking it seriously!" but sometimes that isn't the case.  I'm
>> tempted to say that whether or not it is harassment should depend on
>> how the object of the action felt...
>
> The catch is that this basically means that: it's a crime whenever
> it's convenient for the "victim". In some cases even just whenever
> it's convenient for a lawyer that happens to come by. Where there's
> money to be sued out, there's a crime.


Yes, you are right.  In the case of this list, there is (AFAIK) no
gain for any victim to be a victim so we can safely assume the victims
are victims, right?

But yes, in my example, money is involved and that makes things a bit difficult.


> The people that are likely to ever give anything back to the
> community are much less likely to receive harsh treatment, than those
> that mistake the list for a free script writing service.
>
> Of course those that are starting to give advice on the list run the
> risk of having their advice dissected and in some cases corrected.


Well, from what I've seen, the people that are being put down are not
the ones that post their homework once but have been around for a few
months and thought it was time to help someone out.  The people that
think it's a free script writing service will just as easily create
another free e-mail account and come back...


> And then there are three kinds of people. Those that take that as an
> oportunity to learn, those that misunderstand the critique and take
> it personally and those that take that as an oportunity to feel
> offended.
>
> The first kind will learn, the second will eventually learn as well
> ... and the last ... would do better to complain somewhere they can
> actually extort some money.


Hmmmmm, sounds like you think that if the problem is ignored, it will go away?

Well, in a way, you might be right.  Whether there is bullying at the
workplace or at school, ultimately...if we look at the "long run", the
staff will quit or the student will graduate.  And then the problem
becomes someone else's problem.  I guess that's how things like this
are usually handled.  A bit unfortunate...

Ray

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