On Tue, April 19, 2011 12:45 pm, Raymond Wan wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 01:17, Rob Dixon <rob.di...@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 19/04/2011 16:00, Peter Scott wrote:
>>> If anything is clear from that FAQ it is that the intention is to avoid
>>> flames on this list.  Casey and Kevin appear to have stopped
>>> monitoring
>>> this group some time ago, though.
>> I have raised the issue of bullying with the moderators in past years.
>> The reaction was that, since Randal had such valuable input, it was
>> appropriate to let it drop. I find Randal's ideas interesting, although
>> hardly germane or unmissable, but the decision has let through the flood
>> of bad manners for so long that it is now entrenched in the life of the
>> list. That is a damned shame, and I think the moderators should earn
>> their position and make some changes at last.
>
>
> I doubt my name registers to many here :-) but for a brief period, I
> was following this list.  But now, I've basically left for the reasons
> both of you are raising.  I haven't heard it called it as "bullying",
> but sounds correct.
>
> I thought the list was a good way to get help and then to help others
> in return.  But despite the interactive nature, a book seems to be
> better since it never shouts at you.  For those of us who first
> learned programming from a teacher, I'm glad that when I didn't
> initialize my variables, left out comments, or didn't enable a warning
> for the compiler, I didn't get shouted at.  If that was how things
> started, I'm not so sure I'd still be doing this...
>
> Good to see there are many good people on the list.  But when the
> stress gets high, there are probably other ways to help Perl beginners
> (web sites like stackoverflow, writing a good blog/web page, or
> helping someone physically sitting next to you).  It ain't worth
> getting stressed over.  After all, this mailing list is a very small
> part of the whole Perl community...thankfully!  :-)
>
> Ray

No matter on a list or in real life.  There are always that one person
here and there that get a charge out of sucking the life out of others
with their negativity and criticism.  Just have to ignore those types, or
you just get sucked into their black hole of nothing-less.  In other
words, just ignore and move on.  I've had some in here question if I know
anything about the code I wrote, as if saying they couldn't understand
anything I wrote.  But hey, I'm a busy admin, and I don't have time to
message and cuddle a script for days...  I get it to work, and move on to
the next.  Sure, I've learned plenty in here give me constructive
criticism and believe I've learned how to put plenty of checks, etc in my
code to avoid disaster.  So in short, this list is awesome!


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