Yes, when J crashes you may lose unsaved code,
this is why intead of Ctrl+W, I use Ctrl+S Ctrl+W
all the time, esp. with things like DLL calls.
To salvage ijx you can save it periodically too,
it will then just increment file name/number in temp
for the next ijx session.
TextPad used to be my favorite too. Though it has nice
features like numbered replace, it's too slow on open.
Intead, now I use EditPlus. Their "IDE" features is
like invoking a compiler. But that's a one time thing,
I don't think they can maintain a terminal session, can they?
Also it's not the right direction: if you use J,
you need to use J tools. If you see something lacking,
it's better to improve the J tools.
For example, there are issues with find dialog box
and the script window. Use cases:
Find new word.
- Open find: Ctrl+F
- Type word
- Press enter to find
Issue: default button is "Find from Top",
I believe it should be "Find Next"
Found word. Now want to find next word.
Issue: expect to press the same key
(in many viewers it's F3 for initial find
and all the Next, and Shift+F3 or F7 is find new)
or an "adjesent" key, like Ctrl+G.
Instead need to use mouse (horrible) or press
Ctrl+F just to return to the dialog box.
Now want to dismiss the dialog.
Press Escape -- instead the script
window closes -- this is a major setback.
So need to press Ctrl+F Escape, or
use mouse.
BTW, autoclosing scripts on Escape is an annoyance
rather than convenience.
--- greg heil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/31/06, Eric Iverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think it is a good thing that we provide the J IDE in addtion to the old
> > tried and true
> tools.
>
> Certainly:) However i too have been limiting my use of it. Primarily
> for one reason: When J crashes it takes the ijs windows with it:( If i
> use another editor then i can use its autobackup and, in any case, be
> independent of J's stability.
>
> i would like to figure out how to get TextPad's IDE capability to mesh
> with J's ... if anyone has explored that particular route. Or maybe
> someday i should beak down and learn eMacs. i have used TextPad for
> years so it is comfortable to me, but i am sure there are alternatives
> which are also easy to switch to and may be even more easily meshable
> with J.
>
> Perhaps if the J windows had a more robust autobackup mechanism of
> some kind that could be switched on... Along with an easier mechanism
> to access recently used directories in the file finders. i don't know
> what the best extension is, i just know it is pretty rickety to put
> ones thoughts on papers which are so hard to secure. Maybe when i
> figure out how to hack the system files, and stick my user directory
> in place of the TEMP defaults etc i can use the save key more
> freely/frequently: this mostly applies to the ijx window.
>
> But the main desired improvement, for me, would be to insulate J's IDE
> from the runtime environment.
>
> The ijs editor is quirky/different, but hey the source is open, so it
> can be hacked. i would like to use it, if it were secure.
>
> ~greg
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